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I did not intend to set up a straw man. You are correct, however, that no one is arguing that we can't. Rather, they are arguing that we shouldn't. I don't agre
by goodcanadian 12y ago
I did not intend to set up a straw man. You are correct, however, that no one is arguing that we can't. Rather, they are arguing that we shouldn't. I don't agree with that position. Remember, early motor cars were nothing more than an expensive hobby, and one that was heavily criticized because of the noise and danger. Early aviation was also nothing more than an expensive hobby. Because there were people who wanted to push forward despite there being no obvious return on investment is why we have the developments we do in these and other fields. I and many others feel similarly about human space exploration. We feel that there is intrinsic value in it that is not readily captured in the ROI calculations. I grant that we are talking about a different order of magnitude in required resources, but I don't feel that qualitatively changes the argument.
I could also make some more technical arguments around the value of having a human on site to repair or refit instruments, to react to unexpected developments, and so on, but that is outside the scope of the argument I was trying to make.
- erydo 12y agoYou make a very good point about ROI for non-obvious investments. I also agree with you that for many things like your general repair example, humans are better than robots for the time being. That's why I framed it as them having "the potential" to perform better. I think most would agree that our on-site manual superiority isn't going to last very much longer in the scheme of things; especially under scrutiny of cost/benefit. What I'm trying to get at is the question of where we see humans' roles over the coming centuries with respect to space travel, and whether the sci-fi trope of humans on ships and colonizing planets on foot makes sense or is really something to aspire to, and at what point that falls apart as a utilitarian approach. I agree it's not yet, but I agree with @lukifer that we'll outgrow ourselves as our technological grasp exceeds our biological one. And our reach has never known any bounds.