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Can Sublime Text/Atom do all of this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8639804 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8639804 ? I want to jump to any fi
by tuhdo 12y ago
Can Sublime Text/Atom do all of this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8639804 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8639804 ?
I want to jump to any file at any time regardless of where I am in the project instantly, can Sublime do it? And even if a project has 30-40k files, it must be fast and make me jump instantly. See the demos in this guide for details: http://tuhdo.github.io/helm-projectile.html http://tuhdo.github.io/helm-projectile.html
Atom has a limit of 2MB text file which is worse than Vim in the 90s.
- thrw1q 12y agoThose videos on the Idris mode are also very impressive: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsON_8vogp4nCQFTnfu43kA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsON_8vogp4nCQFTnfu43kA (Other languages also have nice modes for context-aware completion (and more), like Haskell's ghc-mod and Rust's racer, which is incomplete but is already very nice)
- pmoriarty 12y agoOr take a look at the videos at Emacs Rocks.[1] [1] - http://emacsrocks.com/ http://emacsrocks.com/
- giovannibajo1 12y ago> I want to jump to any file at any time regardless of where I am in the project instantly, can Sublime do it? And even if a project has 30-40k files, it must be fast and make me jump instantly Yes, Sublime handles that smoothly. Do a linux tree clone, enter the directory, run "subl .", then ctrl+p (or cmd+p) and start typing whatever. It fuzzy-completes your typing and immediately displays your selection as a preview in the background as well. Video here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjc9k8ocwiukq5t/sublime-linux.mov?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjc9k8ocwiukq5t/sublime-linux.mov?... (note the percentage in the footer, it was indexing in background the files for code completion and other stuff, since I had just cloned it, but the file jumping still works smoothly). I skimmed through your other videos, and I didn't instantly see anything that I couldn't do with a recent editor as well.
- tuhdo 12y agoEmacs also has that preview feature when you move the highlighter to a selection. However, I feel it annoying because screen keeps changing while I narrow to a file or a set of files, and luckily it is off by default. How about other thing? Like switch between source and header files without configuring anything? Or Jump to any file I see instantly, even without full filepath and you only have just a name and without typing the filename? http://tuhdo.github.io/static/helm-projectile/helm-projectile-find-files-dwim-1.gif http://tuhdo.github.io/static/helm-projectile/helm-projectil... Can it do powerful automatic indentation: https://github.com/Bruce-Connor/aggressive-indent-mode https://github.com/Bruce-Connor/aggressive-indent-mode. It does not only indent the current line, but the whole Semantic context around your cursor. Demos inside the homepage. Beautiful compile output: http://tuhdo.github.io/static/c-ide/compilation-compile.gif http://tuhdo.github.io/static/c-ide/compilation-compile.gif Open man page for symbol at cursor: http://tuhdo.github.io/static/part3/helm-man-woman.gif http://tuhdo.github.io/static/part3/helm-man-woman.gif Emacs can save any arbitrary window layout and restore it later. You can even have workspace in Emacs, each can store a set of window layouts (i.e. one for debugging, one for reading doc, one for just source code...), can be saved as a bookmark and later restore in future session. In Emacs, you can bookmark everything, even a git commit.
- giovannibajo1 12y ago> How about other thing? Like switch between source and header files without configuring anything? Yes (ctrl+alt+up). > Or Jump to any file I see instantly, even without full file path > and you only have just a name and without typing the filename? I'm not sure I understand. I mentioned fuzzy completion before, the way it works is that it matches even subparts of the paths and/or filename, with the only requisite of preserving left to right. For instance if I type "bmx25" I can find boot-related imx25 files, because it will match the "b" from the boot path, and then "mx25" from the filename (even a few directories down the path). > Can it do powerful automatic indentation: I never saw such a plugin; generically speaking, plugins can do stuff on keypresses (in a separate thread of course to avoid blocking), for instance you can configure the linters to run at each keypress, at each save, every Nth seconds, after N idle millesconds, etc. So it depends whether you want to compare the richness of the ecosystem or the core capabilities of the editor. > Beautiful compile output: I honestly don't know; it doesn't that by default, though there might be some plugin to that effect; when I use compiled languages, I prefer a linter-like approach to showing compilation errors, so I don't use this kind of plugins in my own environment. > Open man page for symbol at cursor yes, this is supported, though I personally switched to Dash (http://kapeli.com/dash http://kapeli.com/dash) recently, which is similar but much more powerful than just man, as it allows to cache and index documentation from dozens of programming environment and frameworks, taking care of the different formats, etc. So for instance with the same shortcut I can get the help for a POSIX function from its man page, or a Boost class method from their official documentation, and everything is blazingly fast because of local cache and index, so my computer doesn't need to go to boost.org to show that page. > Emacs can save any arbitrary window layout and restore it later. You can do that in Sublime, but you need to define a project (which, in its most basic form, is just a "save project" command after having opened a directory); at that point, you have a shortcut to switch between projects with fuzzy completion, and each project keeps the full workspace, ALSO including unsaved modifications to files (which sounds crazy but I love it) as it means that you can do it without even thinking once. --- Generally speaking, I don't think there's a world of difference. I find vim harder to replicate in its more advanced features, with its approach to command combinations which is totally different from anything else; but emacs introduced to the world the concept an extendible editor based on complicated, targeted commands (which is the one in widespread usage today), so I think that any sufficiently advanced editor can get very close to emacs in most features. Obviously emacs has many years of history and contributors that created a vast ecosystem, but there might also be some ecosystem bias given its legacy (e.g.: I think it's safe to assert that most web programmers don't use emacs, so I think it's normal to expect Sublime or Atom support for web programming to be generically more advanced). In fact, I don't think Emacs have a specific paradigm that is hard to replicate, as it's the contrary (what used to be special in Emacs 20 years ago as become the default for all editors nowadays). We can battle on the last advanced feature in one specific workflow, but I think the discussion then becomes anecdoctal or at least very niche-related. If look at Atom for instance, they introduced a concept where the editor window is not simply line-based, but they can open graphical windows within it, which is a paradigm shift which might introduce unique features, very hard to replicate. See for instance their nested CSS editing feature, which is very nice because it helps my brain limit the context switching a lot.