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These are people who are charged with wanting to kill people and otherwise destroy the USA. There is no shame in locking people up who want to do that, though y

These are people who are charged with wanting to kill people and otherwise destroy the USA. There is no shame in locking people up who want to do that, though you can disagree with the charges all you want.

pvaldes 12y ago
Wake-up. Where are his lawyers? where is the invisible jury? If a real judge finds that some of they are guilty they should just be put in a real Jail. Just like any other american citizen. Can't see any real problem with this. Guantanamo IS still helping to destroy the USA, in fact, and should have been destroyed many years ago.
- sseveran 12y ago
  Why would a non-nation state actor need a lawyer? I could see returning the Taliban fighters to Afganistan since they were representing some sort of government. For people who have been picked up as part of Al Qaeda and its affiliate networks I don't really have a problem with holding them indefinitely. I find the use of drones to kill Americans, and the casual acceptance of collateral damage to be far, far worse. Those Americans may have done terrible things but were still Americans with Constitutional rights, unlike someone we picked up in Yemen or Somalia.
  - lotsofmangos 12y ago
    You know, that position on rights is fascism.
omonra 12y ago
This is an echo chamber for people who all agree with each other. I wouldn't waste your time taking the opposite view.
- pvaldes 12y ago
  As long as you use smart arguments, the opposite view is most than welcome. Everybody wants the same, that USA be able to clean and close this hideous and rotten page of his history. But to declare that something "was charged with horrible crimes", when there was not even the slightest trace of a fair trial, is not an argument, is just to think that the rest of the world is plain stupid. And to say that: "Some terrorists tell us that other guy was fantasizing with killing people so has been locked for the rest of his life and was his human-toy since them... and I don't see ANY problem with this", is just heartless cynism. What if they just lied to you?. Currently in my country, with some thousands of evictions a day by the greedy of some "banksters" (formerly rescued by the people) a lot of people fantasize sometimes with a grand piano falling over the Minister of Finance in the most "ItchyScratchiest" way possible and that, after this, he rises and smiles with a denture of white keys, chirping birds around the head and all the stuff. Boy, these millions of bad people should be locked and chieftly we _must_ assure that they never ever be able to join the jail band!... ;-)

pvaldes 12y ago

Wake-up. Where are his lawyers? where is the invisible jury? If a real judge finds that some of they are guilty they should just be put in a real Jail. Just like any other american citizen. Can't see any real problem with this. Guantanamo IS still helping to destroy the USA, in fact, and should have been destroyed many years ago.

sseveran 12y ago
Why would a non-nation state actor need a lawyer? I could see returning the Taliban fighters to Afganistan since they were representing some sort of government. For people who have been picked up as part of Al Qaeda and its affiliate networks I don't really have a problem with holding them indefinitely. I find the use of drones to kill Americans, and the casual acceptance of collateral damage to be far, far worse. Those Americans may have done terrible things but were still Americans with Constitutional rights, unlike someone we picked up in Yemen or Somalia.
- lotsofmangos 12y ago
  You know, that position on rights is fascism.

omonra 12y ago

This is an echo chamber for people who all agree with each other. I wouldn't waste your time taking the opposite view.

pvaldes 12y ago
As long as you use smart arguments, the opposite view is most than welcome. Everybody wants the same, that USA be able to clean and close this hideous and rotten page of his history. But to declare that something "was charged with horrible crimes", when there was not even the slightest trace of a fair trial, is not an argument, is just to think that the rest of the world is plain stupid. And to say that: "Some terrorists tell us that other guy was fantasizing with killing people so has been locked for the rest of his life and was his human-toy since them... and I don't see ANY problem with this", is just heartless cynism. What if they just lied to you?. Currently in my country, with some thousands of evictions a day by the greedy of some "banksters" (formerly rescued by the people) a lot of people fantasize sometimes with a grand piano falling over the Minister of Finance in the most "ItchyScratchiest" way possible and that, after this, he rises and smiles with a denture of white keys, chirping birds around the head and all the stuff. Boy, these millions of bad people should be locked and chieftly we _must_ assure that they never ever be able to join the jail band!... ;-)