>"Idiomatic" in whose opinion? That's the point I'm making. People constantly dismiss the results they don't like as "unidiomatic" and embrace they ones they

>"Idiomatic" in whose opinion? That's the point I'm making. People constantly dismiss the results they don't like as "unidiomatic" and embrace they ones they do as "idiomatic". >is that other people really do work through looking at the source code "on an individual basis, one at a time." Except that people don't bother adding them, so your reasoning for why isn't relevant. If you want to claim the shootout is useful for this, you need to allow for grouping benchmarks together to be presented against the "standard" ones. Let Bob and Sally submit "Bob and Sally version of Foo benchmarks" and let me compare them against Foo and against other languages.