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"some dead white scientist" You do realize Einstein was a Jew who was forced to leave Germany because of Nazism, right?

by n72 12y ago

oso2k 12y ago
Judaism has and always will be a religion and not an ethnicity or race.
- lostlogin 12y ago
  Many would disagree. I'd call it both. Can you further explain? Probably not the best source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews Edit: down votes weren't mine.
- themartorana 12y ago
  This old thing. It is wrong and has always been wrong. Quoth: "Race is a social concept used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation. First used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations, in the 17th century, people began to use the term to relate to observable physical (i.e. phenotypical) traits." [0] But more importantly, they are an ethnoreligious group, defined by shared ethnicity and religion. [1] So, not all Jews are Jews, and not all Jews are Jews. But the classification is not always religious. [0] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification) [1] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnoreligious_group http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnoreligious_group
- EpicEng 12y ago
  Please describe the difference between racial and religious discrimination. In practice, how does it differ? It's all the same; some group doesn't like you because of who and what you are.
  - peterfirefly 12y ago
    Religions can be rely evil and bad. They often are. You choose whether to follow an evil religion. You can't choose what colour of skin you are born with or the facial bone structure. You /can/ change those things later but it is expensive, requires surgery or bad chemicals and is really unpleasant. Discriminating against religions is a completely different (and much more defensible) matter than discriminating against "race" or ethnicity.
    - ZeroGravitas 12y ago
      The vast majority of people follow the dominant religion of the area they are born and/or their parents. In practice this makes it interchangeable with racism in most cases.
      - peterfirefly 12y ago
        So that gives immigrants a get out of jail free-card? One that converts don't have?
    - peterfirefly 12y ago
      s/rely/really/ :(

"some dead white scientist" You do realize Einstein was a Jew who was forced to leave Germany because of Nazism, right?

by n72 12y ago

"some dead white scientist" You do realize Einstein was a Jew who was forced to leave Germany because of Nazism, right?

oso2k 12y ago

Judaism has and always will be a religion and not an ethnicity or race.

lostlogin 12y ago
Many would disagree. I'd call it both. Can you further explain? Probably not the best source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews Edit: down votes weren't mine.
themartorana 12y ago
This old thing. It is wrong and has always been wrong. Quoth: "Race is a social concept used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation. First used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations, in the 17th century, people began to use the term to relate to observable physical (i.e. phenotypical) traits." [0] But more importantly, they are an ethnoreligious group, defined by shared ethnicity and religion. [1] So, not all Jews are Jews, and not all Jews are Jews. But the classification is not always religious. [0] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification) [1] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnoreligious_group http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnoreligious_group
EpicEng 12y ago
Please describe the difference between racial and religious discrimination. In practice, how does it differ? It's all the same; some group doesn't like you because of who and what you are.
- peterfirefly 12y ago
  Religions can be rely evil and bad. They often are. You choose whether to follow an evil religion. You can't choose what colour of skin you are born with or the facial bone structure. You /can/ change those things later but it is expensive, requires surgery or bad chemicals and is really unpleasant. Discriminating against religions is a completely different (and much more defensible) matter than discriminating against "race" or ethnicity.
  - ZeroGravitas 12y ago
    The vast majority of people follow the dominant religion of the area they are born and/or their parents. In practice this makes it interchangeable with racism in most cases.
    - peterfirefly 12y ago
      So that gives immigrants a get out of jail free-card? One that converts don't have?
  - peterfirefly 12y ago
    s/rely/really/ :(