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The article you reference doesn't say insulin is pointless. it says you need to consider Leptins with it... which yes, is basic biology. Insulin is the mechan

by 1stop 12y ago

The article you reference doesn't say insulin is pointless. it says you need to consider Leptins with it... which yes, is basic biology. Insulin is the mechanics of how sugars and proteins are processed (whether as energy for muscles or stored as fat). Leptins are the process which update the brain. (i.e when you are hungry/full etc). Both obviously have huge implications on weight management. So it isn't a "weird fixation on insulin", it is weird that Leptins are not mentioned more often. But maybe that is diets not wanting to over complicate things. Where as insulin is more widely understood because of implications in diabetes etc. > >When that happens, your body goes from it's fat burning mode (default state) to carb burning > That is a complete misrepresentation of reality made by people pushing a fad diet. No it isn't. It is a simplification, but not really a misrepresentation and definitely not a complete misrepresentation. Sugar enters blood, Leptins signal brain. Pancreas produces insulin, insulin blocks tri-glycerol from being released from existing fat stores, and begins either replenishing glycogen stores from the blood, or producing more tri-glycerol. (This is still a simplification)... But please point out the misrepresentation, because if were trying to be more concise I would say: "switches from fat-burning to carb-burning/fat-storing".

imanaccount247 12y ago
>The article you reference doesn't say insulin is pointless Why would it say something that absurd, and why do you think I believed it did? I said nothing even remotely like that, and that doesn't even make sense. >Both obviously have huge implications on weight management Except that the evidence suggests otherwise, that's the point. >But please point out the misrepresentation, because if were trying to be more concise I would say: "switches from fat-burning to carb-burning/fat-storing". You just did. There is no "fat burning mode" and "carb burning mode". Again, the link I already gave you very nicely and clearly discusses this.
- 1stop 12y ago
  > Why would it say something that absurd, and why do you think I believed it did? I said nothing even remotely like that, and that doesn't even make sense. You referred to insulin as a "weird fixation" as if it were meaningless in a weight management context. And your response above is just obnoxious, if you have a point make it, stop referring to it. Obvious troll is obvious. > Except that the evidence suggests otherwise, that's the point. No, it doesn't. Evidence suggests they both have huge implications. You remove leptins you get a high correlation with obesity (as mentioned in your own article). You remove insulin you get "difficulty storing fat", you pump insulin high, and you get high storage of fat. Try out a google scholar search on "insulin resistance", "diabetes and weight management", "insulin fat". Again make your point rather than referring to it, as it looks to me you are just running out of actual knowledge and resorting to rhetoric. > You just did. There is no "fat burning mode" and "carb burning mode". Again, the link I already gave you very nicely and clearly discusses this. You chose not to include my expanded description of what happens. Now I know you are trolling...
  - imanaccount247 12y ago
    >You referred to insulin as a "weird fixation" as if it were meaningless in a weight management context It is. > And your response above is just obnoxious, if you have a point make it, stop referring to it. I have no idea what that means. >No, it doesn't. Contradict the evidence in the link I gave you then. "Nuh uh" is not compelling.
    - 1stop 12y ago
      > It is. So when I say you said it was pointless, you say "No I didn't", when I say "you kinda did", you say: "yeah I did". trollololol > Contradict the evidence in the link I gave you then. "Nuh uh" is not compelling. How about you contradict the peer-reviewed evidence I gave you... and I'll treat your wordpress blog for what it is: A wordpress blog.
      - imanaccount247 12y ago
        You can't be bothered to even look at the "wordpress blog" to see what it is, but I am the one trolling? If you have something to say, then say it. Posting just to see your name isn't productive.

by 1stop 12y ago

imanaccount247 12y ago

>The article you reference doesn't say insulin is pointless Why would it say something that absurd, and why do you think I believed it did? I said nothing even remotely like that, and that doesn't even make sense. >Both obviously have huge implications on weight management Except that the evidence suggests otherwise, that's the point. >But please point out the misrepresentation, because if were trying to be more concise I would say: "switches from fat-burning to carb-burning/fat-storing". You just did. There is no "fat burning mode" and "carb burning mode". Again, the link I already gave you very nicely and clearly discusses this.

1stop 12y ago
> Why would it say something that absurd, and why do you think I believed it did? I said nothing even remotely like that, and that doesn't even make sense. You referred to insulin as a "weird fixation" as if it were meaningless in a weight management context. And your response above is just obnoxious, if you have a point make it, stop referring to it. Obvious troll is obvious. > Except that the evidence suggests otherwise, that's the point. No, it doesn't. Evidence suggests they both have huge implications. You remove leptins you get a high correlation with obesity (as mentioned in your own article). You remove insulin you get "difficulty storing fat", you pump insulin high, and you get high storage of fat. Try out a google scholar search on "insulin resistance", "diabetes and weight management", "insulin fat". Again make your point rather than referring to it, as it looks to me you are just running out of actual knowledge and resorting to rhetoric. > You just did. There is no "fat burning mode" and "carb burning mode". Again, the link I already gave you very nicely and clearly discusses this. You chose not to include my expanded description of what happens. Now I know you are trolling...
- imanaccount247 12y ago
  >You referred to insulin as a "weird fixation" as if it were meaningless in a weight management context It is. > And your response above is just obnoxious, if you have a point make it, stop referring to it. I have no idea what that means. >No, it doesn't. Contradict the evidence in the link I gave you then. "Nuh uh" is not compelling.
  - 1stop 12y ago
    > It is. So when I say you said it was pointless, you say "No I didn't", when I say "you kinda did", you say: "yeah I did". trollololol > Contradict the evidence in the link I gave you then. "Nuh uh" is not compelling. How about you contradict the peer-reviewed evidence I gave you... and I'll treat your wordpress blog for what it is: A wordpress blog.
    - imanaccount247 12y ago
      You can't be bothered to even look at the "wordpress blog" to see what it is, but I am the one trolling? If you have something to say, then say it. Posting just to see your name isn't productive.