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Where did the mothers get the phthalates from? What kinds of products promote bio-absorption of packaing phthalates? Are phthalates in packaging correlated to c

by gohrt 12y ago

Where did the mothers get the phthalates from? What kinds of products promote bio-absorption of packaing phthalates? Are phthalates in packaging correlated to certain kinds of (perhaps brain-unhealthy?) foods?

chromaton 12y ago
According to Wikipedia, phthalates are often used to soften PVC. PVC doesn't have an especially stellar safety record.
fnordfnordfnord 12y ago
>Where did the mothers get the phthalates from? Liquid soaps such as shampoo, food packaging, perfume, hairspray, other plastics, especially the plastics used in car interiors.
rgbrenner 12y ago
Everyone (literally 100%) has phthalates in their blood because they're everywhere.. plastic product packaging, dryer sheets, shampoo, cosmetics, carpeting, lotions, body washes, adhesives, insecticides, plastic wrap, wallpaper, ... even if it's just in the packaging, it can leach into the food -- drinks that are in plastic bottles for example.
thrownaway2424 12y ago
Phthalates are used to plasticize many consumer products. Regulators have been banning them piecemeal, industry responds by changing the molecule slightly and carrying on. Probably regulators are going to eventually just ban phthalates as a class, or someone will figure out some way to make them safe (the current trend is to make them bigger/longer, which may be working or not).
thret 12y ago
https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/972486 https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/... I'd guess the main concerns for pregnant women would be cosmetics, perfume and nail polish.
driverdan 12y ago
My first thought was what if it's the contents of the packaging that contains more phthalates than the phthalates themselves. It doesn't seem that they controlled for specific products containing phthalates. For example, what if people who eat poorly, mainly consuming prepackaged junk food have higher phthalate levels?
Htsthbjig 12y ago
PVC and Poliestyrene(beautiful transparent plastic)that also adds phisphenol like hormone disruptor. You find most PVC on drain pipes and windows because it is so cheap. PVC leak phthalates and other plastic additives to the environment over time. I avoid those things as much as I can for me and my family. My windows are made from aluminum. My plastic bottles are from ugly Polietylene or PP, but I try to use glass if I can.
- dzhiurgis 12y ago
  Looks like only HDPE, rather than regular PE is safe.

by gohrt 12y ago

chromaton 12y ago

According to Wikipedia, phthalates are often used to soften PVC. PVC doesn't have an especially stellar safety record.

fnordfnordfnord 12y ago

>Where did the mothers get the phthalates from? Liquid soaps such as shampoo, food packaging, perfume, hairspray, other plastics, especially the plastics used in car interiors.

rgbrenner 12y ago

Everyone (literally 100%) has phthalates in their blood because they're everywhere.. plastic product packaging, dryer sheets, shampoo, cosmetics, carpeting, lotions, body washes, adhesives, insecticides, plastic wrap, wallpaper, ... even if it's just in the packaging, it can leach into the food -- drinks that are in plastic bottles for example.

thrownaway2424 12y ago

Phthalates are used to plasticize many consumer products. Regulators have been banning them piecemeal, industry responds by changing the molecule slightly and carrying on. Probably regulators are going to eventually just ban phthalates as a class, or someone will figure out some way to make them safe (the current trend is to make them bigger/longer, which may be working or not).

thret 12y ago

https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/972486 https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/... I'd guess the main concerns for pregnant women would be cosmetics, perfume and nail polish.

driverdan 12y ago

My first thought was what if it's the contents of the packaging that contains more phthalates than the phthalates themselves. It doesn't seem that they controlled for specific products containing phthalates. For example, what if people who eat poorly, mainly consuming prepackaged junk food have higher phthalate levels?

Htsthbjig 12y ago

PVC and Poliestyrene(beautiful transparent plastic)that also adds phisphenol like hormone disruptor. You find most PVC on drain pipes and windows because it is so cheap. PVC leak phthalates and other plastic additives to the environment over time. I avoid those things as much as I can for me and my family. My windows are made from aluminum. My plastic bottles are from ugly Polietylene or PP, but I try to use glass if I can.

dzhiurgis 12y ago
Looks like only HDPE, rather than regular PE is safe.