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Social media fingerprints of unemployment

85 points by mrry 12y ago

owenversteeg 12y ago
Huh, this is a cool paper. I like the way they found the 340 "economic communities", and I love the model.
joosters 12y ago
"earlier diurnal rhythms ... display lower unemployment rates" is presumably just a fancy way of saying that unemployed people get out of bed later :)
- Swizec 12y ago
  It's almost as if getting up at 6am or 7am was unnatural.
  - mjevans 12y ago
    Getting as little sleep as we do is 'un natural'. I'd argue that, including a nocturnal wandering break of some kind (as I recall hearing used to be normal prior to the widespread use of electricity) around 10 hours of darkness (on average) and 'rest at night' would be what we evolved as being setup for. To instead push the boundaries to midnight or later (as I tend to want to do my self) and then to be required to get up before even 8AM is really not leaving enough time for good rest. It doesn't help that the area I'm in is closer to the 49th parallel than the 45th and also has easterly mountains; thus making natural sunrise artificially later. It's no wonder Seattle has such a caffeine addiction.
    - duaneb 12y ago
      Before the advent of modern light, it was indeed common to have a brief period of being awake in the night. It's also interesting to note that, during winter, it was not unheard of to basically hibernate, sleeping far more during the winter than the summer to preserve energy and food. Sauce: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/opinion/25robb.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/opinion/25robb.html
  - toomuchtodo 12y ago
    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/12/sleep-scientists-want-workdays-to-start-later.html http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/12/sleep-scientists-want-w...
  - zenogais 12y ago
    Could also be that people who have a job are forced to wake up at a certain time in the morning whether they want to or not, whereas the unemployed have no such impetus to get out of bed early.
  - tbrownaw 12y ago
    Unless it's icky and rainy outside, I generally find it difficult to stay asleep much past 7am. Even when I need it from staying up to 2am too many nights in a row. I rather suspect it's staying up past sunset that's "unnatural", rather than waking around sunrise.
    - sklogic 12y ago
      There is a wide variety of circadian rhythms, yours is just one of the most common, but it does not make it any more "natural" than the others. Some of us are night hunters, and no sunset can give us a sufficient kick.
bishnu 12y ago
This reminds me of when LinkedIn started sending me emails to congratulate my friends on their 1/2-year anniversaries at "Unemployed".
- bytecoin 12y ago
  This is gold
ExpiredLink 12y ago
Brave New World 2.0.

85 points by mrry 12y ago

Huh, this is a cool paper. I like the way they found the 340 "economic communities", and I love the model.

"earlier diurnal rhythms ... display lower unemployment rates" is presumably just a fancy way of saying that unemployed people get out of bed later :)

Swizec 12y ago
It's almost as if getting up at 6am or 7am was unnatural.
- mjevans 12y ago
  Getting as little sleep as we do is 'un natural'. I'd argue that, including a nocturnal wandering break of some kind (as I recall hearing used to be normal prior to the widespread use of electricity) around 10 hours of darkness (on average) and 'rest at night' would be what we evolved as being setup for. To instead push the boundaries to midnight or later (as I tend to want to do my self) and then to be required to get up before even 8AM is really not leaving enough time for good rest. It doesn't help that the area I'm in is closer to the 49th parallel than the 45th and also has easterly mountains; thus making natural sunrise artificially later. It's no wonder Seattle has such a caffeine addiction.
  - duaneb 12y ago
    Before the advent of modern light, it was indeed common to have a brief period of being awake in the night. It's also interesting to note that, during winter, it was not unheard of to basically hibernate, sleeping far more during the winter than the summer to preserve energy and food. Sauce: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/opinion/25robb.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/opinion/25robb.html
- toomuchtodo 12y ago
  http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/12/sleep-scientists-want-workdays-to-start-later.html http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/12/sleep-scientists-want-w...
- zenogais 12y ago
  Could also be that people who have a job are forced to wake up at a certain time in the morning whether they want to or not, whereas the unemployed have no such impetus to get out of bed early.
- tbrownaw 12y ago
  Unless it's icky and rainy outside, I generally find it difficult to stay asleep much past 7am. Even when I need it from staying up to 2am too many nights in a row. I rather suspect it's staying up past sunset that's "unnatural", rather than waking around sunrise.
  - sklogic 12y ago
    There is a wide variety of circadian rhythms, yours is just one of the most common, but it does not make it any more "natural" than the others. Some of us are night hunters, and no sunset can give us a sufficient kick.

bishnu 12y ago

This reminds me of when LinkedIn started sending me emails to congratulate my friends on their 1/2-year anniversaries at "Unemployed".

bytecoin 12y ago
This is gold

ExpiredLink 12y ago

Brave New World 2.0.