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Yes but the point was "if all you want to watch is Game of Thrones and nothing else, your only option is to torrent/pirate it". It's not. Both of the options yo

Yes but the point was "if all you want to watch is Game of Thrones and nothing else, your only option is to torrent/pirate it". It's not. Both of the options you state allow you to watch GoT and nothing else.

malka 12y ago
option 1 is far from 'nothing else', since I cannot get HBO, without suscribing to a whole package. Option 2 will allow me to watch GoT, true, but I'd have to wait for the BR release.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  Yes there are caveats but with option 1, even though you get other channels, you don't have to watch them. Nobody is forcing you. Neither are perfect but they meet the criteria of the OP.
- res0nat0r 12y ago
  I think his point is that you can't get everything you want, when, where and exactly how you want for free legally. It isn't up to you since you aren't the content creator. It is funny watching the entitlement of people now who believe they can some how demand all of the above.
  - malka 12y ago
    Well, it IS up to me. Thanks to piracy, I have the choice to not have to bend in front of Comcast to watch TV shows.
    - k-mcgrady 12y ago
      And I have the choice to walk into a store, lift something, and leave without paying. I could probably do it without any consequences. But it's morally wrong so I chose not to do it. Your choice to not pay for things has always been there. It's just now easy to do it without getting caught and it's easier than ever to ignore or excuse (it's not available on my terms/it's a copy/it's not stealing) the moral consequences.
      - kuschku 12y ago
        Your analogy is wrong. It’s more like: Going into a bookstore, taking the encyclopedia britannica, reading the article about Elephants and the leaving again, without buying the encyclopedia. Overall the store lost no sale. You wouldn’t have bought it otherwise anyway (For example as I had the choice between paying 20$/month just for Game of Thrones, or not watching it at all, I decided to just ignore that boring show). It might even have made a sale, because as you were already there, you might have bought something else (Pirates tend to spend the most money on additional stuff like cinema tickets or merchandise). And the store didn’t even lose anything, as you didn’t take something from them that they had, you actually didn’t even cost them any money.
        res0nat0r 12y ago
        I do get a laugh at of all of the mental gymnastics that have sprung up when people try to justify piracy these days. Everyone would respect you much more if you just said you are just downloading content since it is free and virtually risk free.
        k-mcgrady 12y ago
        Exactly my point and the reason I get into these arguments. Most of us at some point have pirated something. I don't understand why some people feel the need to twist words and invent causes to justify it.
        k-mcgrady 12y ago
        Exactly my point and the reason I get into these arguments. Most of us at some point have pirated something. I don't understand why some people feel the need to twist words and invent causes to justify it.
      - imanaccount247 12y ago
        Your beliefs are not universal moral truths. I do not ignore or excuse the moral consequences of piracy. There are no moral consequences of piracy. I do not belief in imaginary ownership of data. I believe in personal freedom, so my moral obligation is to not harm others. Choosing not to give someone money is not harming them. Taking something away from them is. Piracy is morally acceptable, theft is not. You are welcome to disagree and have your own morals, but you can't pretend everyone else is obligated to live under your personal moral code.

malka 12y ago

option 1 is far from 'nothing else', since I cannot get HBO, without suscribing to a whole package. Option 2 will allow me to watch GoT, true, but I'd have to wait for the BR release.

k-mcgrady 12y ago
Yes there are caveats but with option 1, even though you get other channels, you don't have to watch them. Nobody is forcing you. Neither are perfect but they meet the criteria of the OP.
res0nat0r 12y ago
I think his point is that you can't get everything you want, when, where and exactly how you want for free legally. It isn't up to you since you aren't the content creator. It is funny watching the entitlement of people now who believe they can some how demand all of the above.
- malka 12y ago
  Well, it IS up to me. Thanks to piracy, I have the choice to not have to bend in front of Comcast to watch TV shows.
  - k-mcgrady 12y ago
    And I have the choice to walk into a store, lift something, and leave without paying. I could probably do it without any consequences. But it's morally wrong so I chose not to do it. Your choice to not pay for things has always been there. It's just now easy to do it without getting caught and it's easier than ever to ignore or excuse (it's not available on my terms/it's a copy/it's not stealing) the moral consequences.
    - kuschku 12y ago
      Your analogy is wrong. It’s more like: Going into a bookstore, taking the encyclopedia britannica, reading the article about Elephants and the leaving again, without buying the encyclopedia. Overall the store lost no sale. You wouldn’t have bought it otherwise anyway (For example as I had the choice between paying 20$/month just for Game of Thrones, or not watching it at all, I decided to just ignore that boring show). It might even have made a sale, because as you were already there, you might have bought something else (Pirates tend to spend the most money on additional stuff like cinema tickets or merchandise). And the store didn’t even lose anything, as you didn’t take something from them that they had, you actually didn’t even cost them any money.
      - res0nat0r 12y ago
        I do get a laugh at of all of the mental gymnastics that have sprung up when people try to justify piracy these days. Everyone would respect you much more if you just said you are just downloading content since it is free and virtually risk free.
        k-mcgrady 12y ago
        Exactly my point and the reason I get into these arguments. Most of us at some point have pirated something. I don't understand why some people feel the need to twist words and invent causes to justify it.
        k-mcgrady 12y ago
        Exactly my point and the reason I get into these arguments. Most of us at some point have pirated something. I don't understand why some people feel the need to twist words and invent causes to justify it.
    - imanaccount247 12y ago
      Your beliefs are not universal moral truths. I do not ignore or excuse the moral consequences of piracy. There are no moral consequences of piracy. I do not belief in imaginary ownership of data. I believe in personal freedom, so my moral obligation is to not harm others. Choosing not to give someone money is not harming them. Taking something away from them is. Piracy is morally acceptable, theft is not. You are welcome to disagree and have your own morals, but you can't pretend everyone else is obligated to live under your personal moral code.