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You cannot control peoples thoughts this just makes the language evolve in order to bypass the firewall and people will find different words to mean the same th

by Fuxy 12y ago

You cannot control peoples thoughts this just makes the language evolve in order to bypass the firewall and people will find different words to mean the same thing in order to avoid the firewall. And if that word gets banned they will just start using another one. It makes communication a lot more cryptic if you're not part of the 'in' crowd but it doesn't stop people from talking about it.

justquest 12y ago
The firewall isn't about being impenetrable. It's about modifying the aggregate opinion of a population - not a specific individual. Politics is about statistics in the sense that you only need x percent of something to accomplish y goal. In other words, only x percentage of people need to think in a certain way to accomplish y goal. This is why, for example, VPNs aren't strictly enforced. Those who need them, get them. But it's such a pain in the ass for a regular person to subscribe to and deploy, that it doesn't matter on the aggregate level for 5% of people to break through.
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- vinceguidry 12y ago
  Right. Also, banning all VPNs would make commerce very difficult. And the Party loves commerce. I'm sure they'd love to stifle all non-party-endorsed political discussion, but they're in a difficult position which is getting more and more difficult with every year. It will be interesting to see how the situation evolves.
2510c39011c5 12y ago
Theoretically, you can't stop people from talking a certain thing; but in practice in you can always increase the cost to reduce the efficiency of communication, especially you can gain a lot of advantages if the effect is on a massive scale, statistically... And when you increase the cost to such a extent that people get more hassle from talking than get more benefits from this same act, people will simply stop doing it... A simple example, I am right now typing on my tablet, and I do have to admit that I was a bit hesitant before I start writing this message...it's just much more comfortable to type on a real keyboard than the tablet screen...but I hate censorship and mind control so much that overcomes my reluctance to type on a tablet... Btw, please don't downvote or upvote my post...I am currently at 256 karma units...I think it's cool and want to maintain this karma for a while...thanks...

by Fuxy 12y ago

justquest 12y ago

The firewall isn't about being impenetrable. It's about modifying the aggregate opinion of a population - not a specific individual. Politics is about statistics in the sense that you only need x percent of something to accomplish y goal. In other words, only x percentage of people need to think in a certain way to accomplish y goal. This is why, for example, VPNs aren't strictly enforced. Those who need them, get them. But it's such a pain in the ass for a regular person to subscribe to and deploy, that it doesn't matter on the aggregate level for 5% of people to break through.

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vinceguidry 12y ago
Right. Also, banning all VPNs would make commerce very difficult. And the Party loves commerce. I'm sure they'd love to stifle all non-party-endorsed political discussion, but they're in a difficult position which is getting more and more difficult with every year. It will be interesting to see how the situation evolves.

2510c39011c5 12y ago

Theoretically, you can't stop people from talking a certain thing; but in practice in you can always increase the cost to reduce the efficiency of communication, especially you can gain a lot of advantages if the effect is on a massive scale, statistically... And when you increase the cost to such a extent that people get more hassle from talking than get more benefits from this same act, people will simply stop doing it... A simple example, I am right now typing on my tablet, and I do have to admit that I was a bit hesitant before I start writing this message...it's just much more comfortable to type on a real keyboard than the tablet screen...but I hate censorship and mind control so much that overcomes my reluctance to type on a tablet... Btw, please don't downvote or upvote my post...I am currently at 256 karma units...I think it's cool and want to maintain this karma for a while...thanks...