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> "Matz is nice and therefore we are nice" This non sequitur annoys me. Deconstructing it: * A: "Matz is nice": Let's say we all agree this is true. * B: "we
by emmanueloga_ 12y ago
> "Matz is nice and therefore we are nice"
This non sequitur annoys me. Deconstructing it:
* A: "Matz is nice": Let's say we all agree this is true.
* B: "we are nice": i.e., the ruby community is nice.
* P(A -> B): (A therefore B) is a slogan, so I assume the proposition P is believed to be true. Is it?
In order for P to be true, the only option is for B to be true as long as Matz keeps being nice. Assuming Matz is still good-natured, is not hard to find counterexamples for B (every big community have some less-than-nice people). So the facts tell us that P is false.
Alternatively, if you assume that Matz is not nice, then, without mattering if "we" are nice or not, the slogan holds true (modus ponens [1]).
Anyway, my point is that the slogan is as silly as this rant :p.
1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_ponens#Justification_via_truth_table http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_ponens#Justification_via_...
- MarkSweep 12y agoI don't understand the original quote to be a proposition. I think what it's trying to say is "Matz is nice so we too aspire to be nice". It's not descriptive, it's perscriptive.
- psquid 12y agoI think the intent was more along the lines of "Matz is nice and therefore we should be nice", but in making it shorter and snappier it now uses a more ambiguous piece of the English language.