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I know for a fact it is not easy for Americans to immigrate into Brazil. I have a few American friends who've tried and failed... Brazilians call it reciprocity

by nico 17y ago

I know for a fact it is not easy for Americans to immigrate into Brazil. I have a few American friends who've tried and failed... Brazilians call it reciprocity.

bilbo0s 17y ago
Well, we started fingerprinting them on entry to the US, and Brasil said "OK, we'll go tit for tat". If you fly to Brasil you will find one set of rules at Customs for Americans, and another for everyone else. That's just payback. The fact remains that for the vast majority of global citizens, getting into Brasil is far less painless than getting into, say, the UK or the United States.
- nico 17y ago
  I agree, but I'd say in Chile is about the same for everybody though (pretty easy). For example, my business partner is Colombian, he's been living here for 5 years now with no problems at all. First he had a Visa subject to work contract, but then when we decided to start our company he only had to go change his Visa status and apply for residence. Bear in mind Colombians don't have such a good reputation, in fact in Chile they are the only ones who have to present a Colombian police report of themselves together with their Visa application :S
  - aditya 17y ago
    Would love to hear more about living and working in Chile. Are you chilean? How hard is it to find smart people? Is there a local startup scene? Is all of this government propaganda or is there really a thriving culture of risk-taking and entrepreneurship? What about VCs?
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    - nico 17y ago
      I am chilean, but just so you know a bit of my background, I went to Berkeley and worked in San Jose at a company in the semiconductors industry. There is a very good startup community here, there are regular events like First Tuesday and DELM. It is not hard to find smart and capable people, in fact a few Americans have scolded me for stating the opposite in the past. There's a lot of potential here, checkout bligoo.com, needish.com, betazeta.com, voxound.com, to name a few. Hvng trbl rplng on my cell
      - nico 17y ago
        Sorry, trouble with my bb. The goverment is very serious about all of this and it is putting a lot of money and effort into it. They are also putting good incentives for local startups. The biggest con about Chile is the small and underdeveloped VC scene, but in spite of this, there's a good private investors scene, albeit not as accessible. The chilean goverment is also backing VCs by actually giving them money to invest. I think you should seriously consider it. More info? Check my profile.
- Maktab 17y ago
  Not to defend the US's policy towards travellers, but this makes no sense. Brazil needs visitors and investors far more than the US does, so by engaging in a little tit-for-tat it does nothing but hurt itself unnecessarily.

by nico 17y ago

I know for a fact it is not easy for Americans to immigrate into Brazil. I have a few American friends who've tried and failed... Brazilians call it reciprocity.

bilbo0s 17y ago

Well, we started fingerprinting them on entry to the US, and Brasil said "OK, we'll go tit for tat". If you fly to Brasil you will find one set of rules at Customs for Americans, and another for everyone else. That's just payback. The fact remains that for the vast majority of global citizens, getting into Brasil is far less painless than getting into, say, the UK or the United States.

nico 17y ago
I agree, but I'd say in Chile is about the same for everybody though (pretty easy). For example, my business partner is Colombian, he's been living here for 5 years now with no problems at all. First he had a Visa subject to work contract, but then when we decided to start our company he only had to go change his Visa status and apply for residence. Bear in mind Colombians don't have such a good reputation, in fact in Chile they are the only ones who have to present a Colombian police report of themselves together with their Visa application :S
- aditya 17y ago
  Would love to hear more about living and working in Chile. Are you chilean? How hard is it to find smart people? Is there a local startup scene? Is all of this government propaganda or is there really a thriving culture of risk-taking and entrepreneurship? What about VCs?
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  - nico 17y ago
    I am chilean, but just so you know a bit of my background, I went to Berkeley and worked in San Jose at a company in the semiconductors industry. There is a very good startup community here, there are regular events like First Tuesday and DELM. It is not hard to find smart and capable people, in fact a few Americans have scolded me for stating the opposite in the past. There's a lot of potential here, checkout bligoo.com, needish.com, betazeta.com, voxound.com, to name a few. Hvng trbl rplng on my cell
    - nico 17y ago
      Sorry, trouble with my bb. The goverment is very serious about all of this and it is putting a lot of money and effort into it. They are also putting good incentives for local startups. The biggest con about Chile is the small and underdeveloped VC scene, but in spite of this, there's a good private investors scene, albeit not as accessible. The chilean goverment is also backing VCs by actually giving them money to invest. I think you should seriously consider it. More info? Check my profile.
Maktab 17y ago
Not to defend the US's policy towards travellers, but this makes no sense. Brazil needs visitors and investors far more than the US does, so by engaging in a little tit-for-tat it does nothing but hurt itself unnecessarily.