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This isn't a response to Raganwald. It's a response to this Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9s3ww/would_you_hire_a_programmer_that_

by unalone 17y ago

This isn't a response to Raganwald. It's a response to this Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9s3ww/would_you_hire_a_programmer_that_does_not_write/ http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9s3ww/would_you...

swombat 17y ago
Is the reddit thread a response to raganwald's post?
- tlrobinson 17y ago
  No, vice versa, Raganwald links to the Reddit post (http://github.com/raganwald/homoiconic/blob/master/2009-10-08/no_hire.md http://github.com/raganwald/homoiconic/blob/master/2009-10-0...)
raganwald 17y ago
Yes, especially since I agree with much of what Ted is saying. p.s. Not that anyone needs further evidence I am imperfect, but if we must have a bash at it, here are two flaws with my original article that I think have merit: 1. I presented a dichotomy between two strategies, first hiring people who know me or whom I know through networking, the Internet, and so on. Second, using monster.com and recruiters. Isn't this a false dichotomy? 2. Although the linkbait headline of my post said something about people who code outside of work, the post itself actually said something about networks and communities. Clearly someone can belong to the HN community without coding oustide of work. According to my headline, I wouldn't hire them. According to my post, I would. Which is it, Mr. Braithwaite?
- wheels 17y ago
  Note that I didn't actually agree with all points (well, rather the point implied by the title) of your original article, I just thought that the irony was thick of someone who appears to be about 24 leading their argument with a dig about the other side being a bunch of inexperienced 20-somethings.
  - unalone 17y ago
    Yeah, I can see that... but I also understand it. I've told people older than me to grow up before. Sometimes people are older/younger than their age suggests. And, in Ted's defense, back when he started writing he was in the right a lot. I remember his huge article about Meebo, the one that made Uncov famous, because it was all about bashing people for attention. He made point after point about Meebo's failure as a service and he was dead right about all of them. A lot of his earlier posts—the ones about Mahalo and Scoble and Pownce in particular—were smart, critical, and not entirely derogatory either.
  - raganwald 17y ago
    Fair enough, although at times I "Combine the wisdom of my youth with the energy of my years."

by unalone 17y ago

swombat 17y ago

Is the reddit thread a response to raganwald's post?

tlrobinson 17y ago
No, vice versa, Raganwald links to the Reddit post (http://github.com/raganwald/homoiconic/blob/master/2009-10-08/no_hire.md http://github.com/raganwald/homoiconic/blob/master/2009-10-0...)

raganwald 17y ago

Yes, especially since I agree with much of what Ted is saying. p.s. Not that anyone needs further evidence I am imperfect, but if we must have a bash at it, here are two flaws with my original article that I think have merit: 1. I presented a dichotomy between two strategies, first hiring people who know me or whom I know through networking, the Internet, and so on. Second, using monster.com and recruiters. Isn't this a false dichotomy? 2. Although the linkbait headline of my post said something about people who code outside of work, the post itself actually said something about networks and communities. Clearly someone can belong to the HN community without coding oustide of work. According to my headline, I wouldn't hire them. According to my post, I would. Which is it, Mr. Braithwaite?

wheels 17y ago
Note that I didn't actually agree with all points (well, rather the point implied by the title) of your original article, I just thought that the irony was thick of someone who appears to be about 24 leading their argument with a dig about the other side being a bunch of inexperienced 20-somethings.
- unalone 17y ago
  Yeah, I can see that... but I also understand it. I've told people older than me to grow up before. Sometimes people are older/younger than their age suggests. And, in Ted's defense, back when he started writing he was in the right a lot. I remember his huge article about Meebo, the one that made Uncov famous, because it was all about bashing people for attention. He made point after point about Meebo's failure as a service and he was dead right about all of them. A lot of his earlier posts—the ones about Mahalo and Scoble and Pownce in particular—were smart, critical, and not entirely derogatory either.
- raganwald 17y ago
  Fair enough, although at times I "Combine the wisdom of my youth with the energy of my years."