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Netflix isn't the only option. You can use iTunes (which is available in a lot of countries with a large collection). You can buy the DVD online or in a store.

Netflix isn't the only option. You can use iTunes (which is available in a lot of countries with a large collection). You can buy the DVD online or in a store. You can buy a DVD online from a different country and have it shipped to you. And if ALL of that fails - what right do you have to that content anyway? You might want to give them your money, they might not want it. It sucks but it's a poor justification for piracy.

kruczek 12y ago
> You might want to give them your money, they might not want it. Actually in such case piracy doesn't need any justification, since it doesn't harm anyone. With only two alternatives - either to download content illegally or to not get it at all, content owners get exactly the same: nothing.
- icebraining 12y ago
  The problem is that not everyone agrees with that consequentialist view.
- yitchelle 12y ago
  > since it doesn't harm anyone How did you come this this conclusion?
  - zxcdw 12y ago
    No "lost potential sale", when the sale wasn't even a realistic possibility?
    - newaccountfool 12y ago
      I can help back this up by an article that details studies that have been done. http://freakonomics.com/2012/01/12/how-much-do-music-and-movie-piracy-really-hurt-the-u-s-economy/ http://freakonomics.com/2012/01/12/how-much-do-music-and-mov...
Benji_San 12y ago
I don't really think a justification is needed. Yes it's illegal but so is driving faster than the speed limit, yet most people does it because they feel entitled. You can ticket people for breaking the rules but it isn't very effective as people value arriving at a red light 3 seconds faster higher than the risk of getting caught. Get real no one who has ever pirated anything is going to buy a DVD over pirating simply because buying the DVD is a really shitty service compared to the piratebay alternative.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  >> "Get real no one who has ever pirated anything is going to buy a DVD over pirating simply because buying the DVD is a really shitty service compared to the piratebay alternative." Of course. My point is don't be self-righteous and use 'it's not available in my country' as justification for trying to make it moral.

kruczek 12y ago

> You might want to give them your money, they might not want it. Actually in such case piracy doesn't need any justification, since it doesn't harm anyone. With only two alternatives - either to download content illegally or to not get it at all, content owners get exactly the same: nothing.

icebraining 12y ago
The problem is that not everyone agrees with that consequentialist view.
yitchelle 12y ago
> since it doesn't harm anyone How did you come this this conclusion?
- zxcdw 12y ago
  No "lost potential sale", when the sale wasn't even a realistic possibility?
  - newaccountfool 12y ago
    I can help back this up by an article that details studies that have been done. http://freakonomics.com/2012/01/12/how-much-do-music-and-movie-piracy-really-hurt-the-u-s-economy/ http://freakonomics.com/2012/01/12/how-much-do-music-and-mov...

Benji_San 12y ago

I don't really think a justification is needed. Yes it's illegal but so is driving faster than the speed limit, yet most people does it because they feel entitled. You can ticket people for breaking the rules but it isn't very effective as people value arriving at a red light 3 seconds faster higher than the risk of getting caught. Get real no one who has ever pirated anything is going to buy a DVD over pirating simply because buying the DVD is a really shitty service compared to the piratebay alternative.

k-mcgrady 12y ago
>> "Get real no one who has ever pirated anything is going to buy a DVD over pirating simply because buying the DVD is a really shitty service compared to the piratebay alternative." Of course. My point is don't be self-righteous and use 'it's not available in my country' as justification for trying to make it moral.