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I think the problem is that no one realizes the internet we grew up with and loved is changing fundamentally and we can't be passivist users of the medium anymo

I think the problem is that no one realizes the internet we grew up with and loved is changing fundamentally and we can't be passivist users of the medium anymore. If you are you're basically saying you're okay with a future where governments regulate which services you can use and ISPs control how fast you can download bits based on whether you're using their sponsored services or not. Its bullshit but its what's happening. At its core though, I think its a hardware problem. We REALLY need a decentralized networking solution to replace ISPs and DNS and if we don't get it, the road is going to be really hard going. This still doesn't solve the problem of intercontentinal networking, and I have no idea how we could solve that one without some monopoly/govt controlling everything.

Swizec 12y ago
It's not a hardware problem, it's a convenience problem. People like that there's somebody else worrying about this. They are willing to do almost anything it takes so they don't have to worry about issues of basic infrastructure. We already do this with water, electricity, and other infrastructure. Anything it takes as long as I can get water/power/trash-taken-out just by flipping a switch and paying a bill. We, as a society, do not want to think about this. As long as the internet is there when we open a laptop or a phone, we don't care how it got there.
- jfaucett 12y ago
  I agree with everything you've said and might rephrase my statement into a its a "lacking service" problem. But I still think the hardware and technology has to exists - which as far as I know is currently not the case, so that startups and entrepreneurs can provide what you are talking about to customers. Anyone, who can choose between state survellianced/traffic prioritized internet and a survelliance free/encrypted/net neutral internet will take the later option all other things being equal.
- ep103 12y ago
  I don't think we as a society don't want to think about this. I think that society at large just assumes that the internet IS regulated as a utility. Up until now, the major ISPs haven't taken an active role in speeding up, shaping or censoring content that non-geeks even really know about.
- ep103 12y ago
  I don't think we as a society don't want to think about this. I think that society at large just assumes that the internet IS regulated as a utility. Up until now, the major ISPs haven't taken an active role in speeding up, shaping or censoring content that non-geeks even really know about. When you explain things like the current FCC debacle, when they finally understand the context, they get enraged because its so obviously different and worse than how they thought the system worked.

Swizec 12y ago

It's not a hardware problem, it's a convenience problem. People like that there's somebody else worrying about this. They are willing to do almost anything it takes so they don't have to worry about issues of basic infrastructure. We already do this with water, electricity, and other infrastructure. Anything it takes as long as I can get water/power/trash-taken-out just by flipping a switch and paying a bill. We, as a society, do not want to think about this. As long as the internet is there when we open a laptop or a phone, we don't care how it got there.

jfaucett 12y ago
I agree with everything you've said and might rephrase my statement into a its a "lacking service" problem. But I still think the hardware and technology has to exists - which as far as I know is currently not the case, so that startups and entrepreneurs can provide what you are talking about to customers. Anyone, who can choose between state survellianced/traffic prioritized internet and a survelliance free/encrypted/net neutral internet will take the later option all other things being equal.
ep103 12y ago
I don't think we as a society don't want to think about this. I think that society at large just assumes that the internet IS regulated as a utility. Up until now, the major ISPs haven't taken an active role in speeding up, shaping or censoring content that non-geeks even really know about.
ep103 12y ago
I don't think we as a society don't want to think about this. I think that society at large just assumes that the internet IS regulated as a utility. Up until now, the major ISPs haven't taken an active role in speeding up, shaping or censoring content that non-geeks even really know about. When you explain things like the current FCC debacle, when they finally understand the context, they get enraged because its so obviously different and worse than how they thought the system worked.