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Someone linked it below. Do you think Aborigines in Australia have the same IQ as the Japanese? Or Pygmies? Part of accepting diversity is accepting that diver

Someone linked it below. Do you think Aborigines in Australia have the same IQ as the Japanese? Or Pygmies? Part of accepting diversity is accepting that diversity is very real. But we want it both ways.

Gatsky 12y ago
Yes, I do. It's biologically implausible that race has a significant impact on intelligence. If you think that socio-cultural factors don't have a massive impact on IQ scores, then look at what has happened to the IQ scores of women in the last century, and not surprisingly, that this varies between countries [1]. [1] http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/beautiful-minds/201207/men-women-and-iq-setting-the-record-straight http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/beautiful-minds/201207/men...
- throwaway451 12y ago
  > Yes, I do. It's biologically implausible that race has a significant impact on intelligence. Surely you would agree we're smarter than Gorillas. Given that, how long as human intelligence been fixed? How long has it not been a selective force in evolution for humans? Does evolution not apply to the human brain?
  - Gatsky 12y ago
    What's your point? Your contention that race influences intelligence isn't proven, so how does invoking an evolutionary framework help? Evolution is a great idea, but the evolutionary history of humans is of course almost entirely speculative. I'm not an evolutionary biologist, but I think there is enough trouble explaining why we walk up right or have smaller jaws than neanderthals let alone explaining how we evolved current levels of intelligence.
yongjik 12y ago
Why not? (Assuming you meant "genetically inherited intelligence" when you said IQ. Most will agree that Japanese schoolchildren get better education than Australian Aborigines on average.) Japan was in stone age as late as 2000 years ago, which is ~2500 years after the Pyramid of Giza was built. Yet we don't see a wave of genius Egyptians now. Where are they?

Gatsky 12y ago

Yes, I do. It's biologically implausible that race has a significant impact on intelligence. If you think that socio-cultural factors don't have a massive impact on IQ scores, then look at what has happened to the IQ scores of women in the last century, and not surprisingly, that this varies between countries [1]. [1] http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/beautiful-minds/201207/men-women-and-iq-setting-the-record-straight http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/beautiful-minds/201207/men...

throwaway451 12y ago
> Yes, I do. It's biologically implausible that race has a significant impact on intelligence. Surely you would agree we're smarter than Gorillas. Given that, how long as human intelligence been fixed? How long has it not been a selective force in evolution for humans? Does evolution not apply to the human brain?
- Gatsky 12y ago
  What's your point? Your contention that race influences intelligence isn't proven, so how does invoking an evolutionary framework help? Evolution is a great idea, but the evolutionary history of humans is of course almost entirely speculative. I'm not an evolutionary biologist, but I think there is enough trouble explaining why we walk up right or have smaller jaws than neanderthals let alone explaining how we evolved current levels of intelligence.

yongjik 12y ago

Why not? (Assuming you meant "genetically inherited intelligence" when you said IQ. Most will agree that Japanese schoolchildren get better education than Australian Aborigines on average.) Japan was in stone age as late as 2000 years ago, which is ~2500 years after the Pyramid of Giza was built. Yet we don't see a wave of genius Egyptians now. Where are they?