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> Believe it or not, this topic has come up on Hacker News before. To paraphrase my comment from then (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7324897 https://news
by simi_ 12y ago
> Believe it or not, this topic has come up on Hacker News before. To paraphrase my comment from then (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7324897 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7324897): while Moldovans speak a language that's very similar to Romanian, in a 2004 census 60% self-identified their primary language as 'Moldovan', as compared to 16.5% who say they speak 'Romanian'.
You've been refuted in the very comment thread you've linked to, lol.
Romania has existed as 4 smaller states [0] for a very long time, inhabited mainly by a people descendant from the native Dacians[1,2] and the colonising Romans. Moldova, the geographical region, was one of these states.
Romania's steps towards unification:
* in 1601 Michael the Brave manages to unify all Romanian principates, albeit very briefly
* in 1881 Walachia and Moldova unify by electing the same leader
* Transylvania is added to the mix after WWI
* because of our initial German allegiance in WWII, we lose half of Moldova (now the Republic of Moldova) to Russia
The point of my short, not that accurate history lesson is that Romanians and Moldavians are the same friggin' people, that had the same language for many, many centuries. Even if the language in the Republic of Moldova would've diverged significantly since WWII (which it has certainly not), it would still be merely a dialect as opposed to a different language. Romanian and Moldavian are less different today than e.g. German and its Austrian dialect are (hence why Moldavian is called a subdialect [3]).
> As linguists say, a language is a dialect with an army and a navy. Whether 'Moldovan' is its own language or simply a regional dialect of 'Romanian' is entirely a question of politics.
Don't believe most elections/referendums from Moldova. There's an acute Russian influence in the Republic of Moldavia, manifested as both systemic brainwashing of older/poorer people, and control over politics and economy, and that's corroborated by the systemic electoral fraud (also present in Romania today [4,5] – sigh).
(Moreover, rumour has it that Russia has armed forces conveniently stationed not too far from the border with Moldova.)
0: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Romania#History http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Romania#History
1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia
2: http://www.daciagroup.com/en http://www.daciagroup.com/en you might have heard of this (don't buy them though, they're cheap for a reason)
3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavian_subdialect_of_Romanian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavian_subdialect_of_Romania...
4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_presidential_election,_2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_presidential_election,...
5: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ro&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpsnews.ro%2F20-de-metode-de-frauda-la-vot-ce-tehnici-se-folosesc%2F&edit-text= https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ro&tl=en&js=y&prev...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavia
bonus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_of_Romania_and_Moldova http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_of_Romania_and_Mold...