Agreed, getting signoff is a skill too. But my comment about engineering using minimal resources was aimed equally at the professional engineer as the students.

Agreed, getting signoff is a skill too. But my comment about engineering using minimal resources was aimed equally at the professional engineer as the students. Imo, he too has an engineering duty to minimize resource use. So it's not moot. Yes, that is my personal definition, which i gained whilst studying engineering in the UK. Its similar to the one on wikipedia, except shorter and slightly broader :)