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Is there any existing project or PoC for a blockchain based torrent index ?

by thesorrow 12y ago

marcalc 12y ago
Wouldn't that beat the system?
evgen 12y ago
I do just love how people think a blockchain is magic crypto fairy dust that solves all problems...
- thesorrow 12y ago
  Solved problem with my bank account so far ;)
  - debacle 12y ago
    You buy groceries with bitcoin? Or is your mom still the one buying the groceries?
    - towelguy 12y ago
      Paper money. It still works even if you keep money in other formats.
    - thesorrow 12y ago
      I trade them with local farmers ;)
- Joeboy 12y ago
  If you're trying to create a distributed, censorship resistant public record then it's a pretty sensible approach to investigate.
  - forgottenpass 12y ago
    Only in the general sense that bitcoin is a system with some desirable properties of a decentralized torrent index. The list of all software with features desirable in a distributed torrent index is as long as my arm and it's arguably sensible to "investigate" any one of them. But the grandparent poster didn't name many technologies, they singled out the bitcoin blockchain specifically. A technology that through the popularity of its function has made it a popular target to have other things bolted onto. But popularity of the blockchain hammer does not turn all problems into nails.
  - mikeash 12y ago
    The Bitcoin blockchain solves the problem of maintaining a distributed public ledger such that changes are agreed upon by all and can't be changed retroactively. You don't need any of that if you just want a torrent index. There's no need for consensus and no need to keep a secure record of the past. Bitcoin needs to prevent Joe from forging messages like, "Bob sent Joe one thousand bitcoins," but there's no corresponding scenario for torrents.
fenollp 12y ago
I believe you mean a decentralised repository of TPB's magnet links? I guess a Git repo would do just fine. It just needs to be regularly updated and signed-off by TPB's people.
fenollp 12y ago
http://blog.brokep.com/2014/12/09/the-pirate-bay-down-forever/#comment-1516 http://blog.brokep.com/2014/12/09/the-pirate-bay-down-foreve...
pips 12y ago
I may be wrong, but isn't it the purpose of the dht ? There are some projects that try to search directly from it : https://btdigg.org/ https://btdigg.org/ http://btindex.org/ http://btindex.org/ https://github.com/laomayi/simDHT https://github.com/laomayi/simDHT
fleitz 12y ago
Sure, just put magnet URIs in your transactions. That said, I'm not quite sure why this needs a blockchain... A URI is either in the system or not in the system... Why would one need a consensus algorithm to store URLs? Blockchains are about consensus, not storage...

Is there any existing project or PoC for a blockchain based torrent index ?

marcalc 12y ago

Wouldn't that beat the system?

evgen 12y ago

I do just love how people think a blockchain is magic crypto fairy dust that solves all problems...

thesorrow 12y ago
Solved problem with my bank account so far ;)
- debacle 12y ago
  You buy groceries with bitcoin? Or is your mom still the one buying the groceries?
  - towelguy 12y ago
    Paper money. It still works even if you keep money in other formats.
  - thesorrow 12y ago
    I trade them with local farmers ;)
Joeboy 12y ago
If you're trying to create a distributed, censorship resistant public record then it's a pretty sensible approach to investigate.
- forgottenpass 12y ago
  Only in the general sense that bitcoin is a system with some desirable properties of a decentralized torrent index. The list of all software with features desirable in a distributed torrent index is as long as my arm and it's arguably sensible to "investigate" any one of them. But the grandparent poster didn't name many technologies, they singled out the bitcoin blockchain specifically. A technology that through the popularity of its function has made it a popular target to have other things bolted onto. But popularity of the blockchain hammer does not turn all problems into nails.
- mikeash 12y ago
  The Bitcoin blockchain solves the problem of maintaining a distributed public ledger such that changes are agreed upon by all and can't be changed retroactively. You don't need any of that if you just want a torrent index. There's no need for consensus and no need to keep a secure record of the past. Bitcoin needs to prevent Joe from forging messages like, "Bob sent Joe one thousand bitcoins," but there's no corresponding scenario for torrents.

fenollp 12y ago

I believe you mean a decentralised repository of TPB's magnet links? I guess a Git repo would do just fine. It just needs to be regularly updated and signed-off by TPB's people.

fenollp 12y ago

http://blog.brokep.com/2014/12/09/the-pirate-bay-down-forever/#comment-1516 http://blog.brokep.com/2014/12/09/the-pirate-bay-down-foreve...

pips 12y ago

I may be wrong, but isn't it the purpose of the dht ? There are some projects that try to search directly from it : https://btdigg.org/ https://btdigg.org/ http://btindex.org/ http://btindex.org/ https://github.com/laomayi/simDHT https://github.com/laomayi/simDHT

fleitz 12y ago

Sure, just put magnet URIs in your transactions. That said, I'm not quite sure why this needs a blockchain... A URI is either in the system or not in the system... Why would one need a consensus algorithm to store URLs? Blockchains are about consensus, not storage...