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Another solution is to not buy Keurig machines.
by snarfy 12y ago
Another solution is to not buy Keurig machines.
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- parennoob 12y agoYeah, I'm gradually coming around to an RMS-y way of thinking – having to tape small bits of an old K-cup onto my Keurig 2.0 is DRM bullshit that I have no room for in my life. Fuck them. Some people will use the new Keurig and its DRMed cups because it provides them with enough value. I will completely bypass this nonsense and make a DRM-free cup of dirt cheap coffee that stimulates my senses, as outlined in another comment. I suggest that you do the same.
- bashinator 12y agoCan I recommend an Aeropress? It's only a little more work than a Keurig (about the same as a french press), and makes some of the best coffee I've ever had. It's also $25, and has no moving parts or electrical components.
- amitutk 12y agoAeropress is the best! Great tasting coffee, cheap machine, easy to clean and maintain.
- markab21 12y agoYup, I agree 100% on the Aeropress. I never thought i'd enjoy such a simple and in-expensive coffee making device as much as I do my Aeropress. I bought one to keep at my office too =D
- girvo 12y agoAnother developer and I share an Aeropress I bought (he bought the metal filter, a must for dark roasted coffee) at work. It's brilliant, and makes amazing coffee with little to no mess. Well worth the money, and much better than a DRM-laden landfill generator.
- acomjean 12y agoI don't even drink coffee (bitter to me), but those who like coffee at my former employer where skipping the company provided machine and coffee packets and using one of those. Seems lest wasteful.
- cpenner461 12y agoI love my Aeropress, but an arguably even simpler option is something like the Hario V60 (http://www.amazon.com/Hario-V60/dp/B000P4D5HG/ http://www.amazon.com/Hario-V60/dp/B000P4D5HG/). $19, and no plastic if that matters to you. I think the filters probably cost you a bit more than the Aeropress. IMHO you should have several different coffee brewing methods at your disposal :-)
- shoover 12y agoRight. I've been using the Aeropress for about seven years. To this day I still use it every week, if not every day. I think the plunger is starting to go. The point is it makes great coffee, and I've convinced many friends and family to buy one, but now I caution people that while it probably makes the best single serving coffee in a $25 package, it's not perfect. Basically there are a lot of parts and you're working the whole time you're using it. One guy at work accidentally punched the filter holder into the compost bin, lost forever. If you're making 2+ servings very often, get a 6- or 8-cup Chemex. Much fewer parts. More: pour, stand around, repeat.
- michael_h 12y agoIf the rubber plunger is starting to feel "gummy" around the edge, you might be able to get a replacement for free. They had a problem for a while and were shipping out replacement parts no questions asked.
- shoover 12y agoThanks for the tip. The seal let some coffee through one time and I also had some slime growing inside it. Gross. But it's several years old maybe expected at some point.
- bashinator 12y agoJust as a point of reference, I don't ever want to see the inside of a Keurig that's been neglected for years in some office or other.
- seanp2k2 12y agoI also have an Aeropress and Lido hand grinder on my desk. We have hot water taps at work, and hand-grinding enough to make a cup takes about 30 seconds: http://www.oehandgrinders.com http://www.oehandgrinders.com Much better quality than anything that comes out of a Keurig at comparable up-front costs and much lower recurring costs (just buy whole beans) plus a virtually limitless selection of coffee. There's a company making reusable metal filters for the Aeropress too if you don't want to buy any supplies for it ever in the future. There are also many other products which make coffee of higher quality than Keurig; cold-brew drippers, pour-over systems, vaccuum brewing, Moka pots, French presses, portable espresso makers, etc. There are so many awesome ways to make coffee these days that it boggles my mind how popular Keurig systems are. Outside of hotels, I really don't understand the appeal. Even some brands of instant coffee / mocha mix are tastier IMO.
- michael_h 12y agoThe metal filters do not filter out cafestol, which may raise LDL cholesterol. You can reuse the good aeropress paper filters as well (peel off before puck ejection, rinse and let it dry for a few minutes, then store with the press). I use each one five or six times, which puts me at about $1.50 worth of filters per year. Thanks for the Lido grinder suggestion, I had been looking for one.
- topherjaynes 12y agothis is my suggestion for a great hack too! Less waste and a better cup of coffee as well!
- InclinedPlane 12y agoThis might be relevant to you: http://kohilabs.com/kohi-filter-for-aeropress/ http://kohilabs.com/kohi-filter-for-aeropress/
- bashinator 12y agoI actually have tried both metal and paper filters, and really prefer the paper ones! I think you end up with a bit less oil in the coffee, which I just happen to like better.
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- jrochkind1 12y agoThe reason I think some people prefer the Keurig-style (for better or worse) is the virtual complete lack of clean-up.
- rancur 12y agowe're getting very efficient at permanently extracting wealth from the middle class
- a3n 12y agoI paid $11 for my drip coffee maker, in the local branch of a national chain grocery. I've had it for two years. It makes one to twelve cups of any kind of coffee you care to put in there, from $5 store brand to dont-even-ask café whose beans were grown on a free-trade farm in Guatemala under the supervision of the executive committee of Juan Valdez' estate's charitable trust and staffed by former independent coffee growing peasants who play guitar at night and wear neckerchiefs, and irrigated with water collected from jaguar kittens kept at a constant but humane level of annoyance. It has never complained to me about anything.
- xgbi 12y agoYeah, well, it doesn't compare at all. You're talking about a filter coffee machine whereas Keurig sells an espresso machine. Your filter doesn't put out the same coffee as an espresso machine; there's pressure involved, temperature, etc.. Your coffee will be "longer" (more water) and contain way more caffeine. You also won't ever be able to produce the foam and taste of an espresso with a filter machine. I'm not saying that it's bad, simply that you cannot compare the two, they don't produce the same coffee. Apart from that, what Keurig is doing (Nespresso is doing the same in Europe) is just plain wrong and should be prevented on a legal level. In France we have this "interop" law that allows us, for the sake of interoperability, to reverse-engineer a patented system to use with non-standard consumables. We have these capsule-based espresso cups, but anybody can sell the capsules. If you want a real espresso, though, one that doesn't lock you up in a franchise and DRM-ed capsules, just buy a normal espresso machine.
- valleyer 12y agoKeurig is not an espresso machine.
- Someone1234 12y agoKeurig make espresso machines, the Rivo range.
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- esaym 12y agoAgreed. Solution, get a popcorn popper and head over to sweetmaria's: http://www.sweetmarias.com/store/instructions.html http://www.sweetmarias.com/store/instructions.html
- mcguire 12y agoI'm hoping you are talking about a stove-top popper: http://www.whirleypopshop.com/stovetop-poppers.html http://www.whirleypopshop.com/stovetop-poppers.html Hard to get a consistent roast, but the result is very, very fresh. And you get to enjoy coffee roasting smoke!
- esaym 12y agoNo, talking about an air popper. Have ran about 26 pounds through it over the last year (92 grams at a time!). I might try other methods in the future. Thought about those $300 drum rollers, but really, I have been happy enough with my popper. Hmm, I also just realized I drank 26 pounds of coffee this year, awesome.
- yc1010 12y agoThis! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroPress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroPress Costs about 20-30$ and makes great coffee A simple yet effective solution to my coffee needs :)
- Shivetya 12y agoWell not buying a 2.0 machine. My 1.0 machine has been doing fine for years but I do not plan to buy a 2.0 I thought there were other k-cup capable machines, surely if the patent went out on the first cups there cannot be one on the actual machine? Why wouldn't someone else step into this market. The advertising practically writes itself, works with all k-cups, the "universal k-cup koffee maker" Its not the best coffee, but its fast and good enough. I have a press which is good for coffee; also awesome for making ginger tea; and a Bonavita for when friends are here and a pot will work. Fortunately with 1.0 machines the refillable works fine and EkoBrew makes a very simple and great refillable
- tehaugmenter 12y agoI feel like the refillable would be easier to circumvent. You could just tape the label to the lid and use it like normal, instead of to the machine itself. My work recently got a new machine, not sure if it has DRM, but the cup holder you have to remove to use the Keurig branded refillable brew basket has 2 tabs that block you from inserting the refillable one.
- thrillgore 12y agoI paid 12 dollars for a cheap coffee press from IKEA. It doesn't ask any questions about the quality of the coffee or where its from. All it asks for is hot water and coffee. It may take up more time to prepare and clean, but that's an opportunity cost for good coffee every morning.
- foobarian 12y agoKeurigs are not for individuals, they are meant for workplaces where people like different flavors of coffee and it's impractical to have someone manage the coffee pot.