They won. They won when the US gave itself the license to enter into a perpetual state of universal war, three days after 9/11. Look at what the US has done. R

They won. They won when the US gave itself the license to enter into a perpetual state of universal war, three days after 9/11. Look at what the US has done. Really, look at all the things it has done -- the surveillance, the drone strikes, the infiltration of civil protests, the use of military equipment by the police force, the lies to justify the war in Iraq, the lies to justify the torture, the violations of international human rights, the targeted killings of "enemy" US citizens, the re-definition of every single one of these words -- and then tell me how the US has upheld its values against terrorism. Then look at countries like Iceland where the nation apologizes over a single justified death at the hands of a police officer, or Norway where after a killing spree and bomb attacks the first consideration by government officials is not about how to punish the murderer, but how to guarantee due process for someone evidently guilty of such heinous crimes. The United States are not the good guys. I'm sorry, but you're not. No matter how much you want it to be true.