First, I would like to comment on the fact that given the current state of surveillance, I think a re-evaluation of oversight processes needs to be done. If the

First, I would like to comment on the fact that given the current state of surveillance, I think a re-evaluation of oversight processes needs to be done. If the CIA isn't properly reporting to the White House, the NSC, and is avoiding oversight by congress, then who the fuck is managing these things? On that same note, what kind of NSC would allow that kind of movement? One that really knows whats going on and approves but doesn't want to be seen as complicit is my guess. Otherwise, the director, or more precisely, the AD, would be the main guy "in the know", but what kind of skeletons does he have and who knows them? What is the real power structure here beyond the official chain of command? How rogue does the Company have to get before someone reigns it in? And with the current state of surveillance, how could any congressmember practically seek to do it? Between the Agency and the Company, they have dirt on them all. My second comment is on torture itself. I'm guessing the main scapegoat is going to be the contractors pulled in post 9/11. Class 11: My Story Inside the CIA's First Post-9/11 Spy Class, is a must read for anyone interested in this factor. That being said though, as I have posited about the GOT in more general terms, I have doubts about the actual intentions of these kinds of programs in the first place. I'll forget the pragmatic and philosophical discussion about torture effectiveness for information extraction for a moment, and just come out and say it. This is how you create terrorists... on purpose. Need a war? You need someone to fight. Don't have someone? Create them. There's also the side ancillary benefit of the possibility of turning some of the radicals into doubles, who then can be used for all kinds of fun stuff. The leader of ISIS spent much time in camp Bucca. The guy responsible for the Benghazi attack also spent time in one of these kinds of facilities. Is this really the goal? Looking for good people to turn so they can be manipulated from afar (and then probably killed so they don't talk). Really and truly, I don't think we can have this discussion properly without bringing JFK into this picture. I've spent a long time trying to understand these big picture things, and my conclusion is not one that you want to hear. Namely, that there was a slow, silent coup against the American government that was fully completed at JFKs assassination. Also, please don't forget that it was the JFK incident that led the Agency to develop the anti conspiracy plan to make the phrase "conspiracy theory" anathema to public debate and discourse.