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dude, this debate is not "going away" because it's grey. abortion at 8 months 29 days is undoubtedly murder. abortion at 8 months 28 days is undoubtedly murde

• narag 17y ago
  I don't know US laws, but in my country they're separate crimes. So "undoubtedly"? Really? Try convincing a court. As for the debate being "grey", of course. That's my point. "Piracy is theft" is black and white. And wrong.
• narag 17y ago
  A separate comment to explain a little more. In my country having sex with a person younger than 13 is considered rape, even with consent. If the 13th birthday is today, is it right to do it today and not yesterday? Why? If a barman sells tobacco to someone who's just turned 16 it's legal. Why wasn't it legal yesterday? Laws need this kind of hard limits. Abortion is legal in many countries within certain weeks of conception. Abortion is illegal (but not murder!!) simply before birth. Penalties are different, that's the law. I'm very happy to have laws, even if I don't like all of them, because they're way better than someone's sense of morality.
• WinterAyars 17y ago
  That argument is a form of definition-mongering. It's basically "because you can't provide an EXACT line that separates these things there's no separation at all!" But that's plainly not a convincing argument.
  • jpwagner 17y ago
    since when does grey = no separation? what a weird comment!