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Senate Torture Report Condemns C.I.A. Interrogation Program

64 points by monsterix 12y ago

jdimov 12y ago
Looks like the US regime is not doing a good job of keeping mouths shut. Yankees haven't learned a thing from snooping on other dictators.
aaronbrethorst 12y ago
“Strongly urge that any speculative language as to the legality of given activities or, more precisely, judgment calls as to their legality vis-à-vis operational guidelines for this activity agreed upon and vetted at the most senior levels of the agency, be refrained from in written traffic (email or cable traffic),” wrote Jose A. Rodriguez Jr., then the head of the C.I.A.'s Counterterrorism Center. “Such language is not helpful.” Vile.
- melling 12y ago
  Why is this Hacker News? Is there some debate that we're going to have for or against torture? It sounds like we're just reporting major news that's already covered by CNN and the NYT.
  - bequanna 12y ago
    Plenty on non-tech articles make it to the front page. Check out the HN Guidelines here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html The relevant portion: Please don't submit comments complaining that a submission is inappropriate for the site. If you think something is spam or offtopic, flag it by going to its page and clicking on the "flag" link. (Not all users will see this; there is a karma threshold.) If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did.
    - melling 12y ago
      No, here's the relevant portion: "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. "
      - bequanna 12y ago
        Huh? Your original post is not appropriate, that is what I am referencing. Ugh. This isn't complicated. The guidelines state: Don't comment about how an article isn't appropriate for HN, just flag it.
        melling 12y ago
        I flagged it immediately. Sorry, if people are too stupid to realize that they're just shooting the shit on politics all day, I'm gonna say something. Go to reddit.
dang 12y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8723548 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8723548
ck2 12y ago
By the way, the CIA contracted people to teach and operate the torture. They paid them $80 MILLION. Truly the "american way" https://www.google.com/search?q=cia+$80+million https://www.google.com/search?q=cia+$80+million The CIA has already won when the press is still using the phrase "enhanced interrogation" instead of what it was: torture. And sometime in the next decade the torture will start again despite all the useless outrage, just like the NSA continues on with the public shrugging. Remember the CIA actively lied to congress, ignoring any objections and even as this report was being gathered, they were hacking into the committee's computers to delete content. These are not good people but we are stuck with them because no-one is willing to do anything about it.
gasull 12y ago
TL;DR - anal rape - waterboarding - sleep deprivation - death threats
deleted 12y ago
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64 points by monsterix 12y ago

Looks like the US regime is not doing a good job of keeping mouths shut. Yankees haven't learned a thing from snooping on other dictators.

aaronbrethorst 12y ago

“Strongly urge that any speculative language as to the legality of given activities or, more precisely, judgment calls as to their legality vis-à-vis operational guidelines for this activity agreed upon and vetted at the most senior levels of the agency, be refrained from in written traffic (email or cable traffic),” wrote Jose A. Rodriguez Jr., then the head of the C.I.A.'s Counterterrorism Center. “Such language is not helpful.” Vile.

melling 12y ago
Why is this Hacker News? Is there some debate that we're going to have for or against torture? It sounds like we're just reporting major news that's already covered by CNN and the NYT.
- bequanna 12y ago
  Plenty on non-tech articles make it to the front page. Check out the HN Guidelines here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html The relevant portion: Please don't submit comments complaining that a submission is inappropriate for the site. If you think something is spam or offtopic, flag it by going to its page and clicking on the "flag" link. (Not all users will see this; there is a karma threshold.) If you flag something, please don't also comment that you did.
  - melling 12y ago
    No, here's the relevant portion: "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. "
    - bequanna 12y ago
      Huh? Your original post is not appropriate, that is what I am referencing. Ugh. This isn't complicated. The guidelines state: Don't comment about how an article isn't appropriate for HN, just flag it.
      - melling 12y ago
        I flagged it immediately. Sorry, if people are too stupid to realize that they're just shooting the shit on politics all day, I'm gonna say something. Go to reddit.

dang 12y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8723548 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8723548

ck2 12y ago

By the way, the CIA contracted people to teach and operate the torture. They paid them $80 MILLION. Truly the "american way" https://www.google.com/search?q=cia+$80+million https://www.google.com/search?q=cia+$80+million The CIA has already won when the press is still using the phrase "enhanced interrogation" instead of what it was: torture. And sometime in the next decade the torture will start again despite all the useless outrage, just like the NSA continues on with the public shrugging. Remember the CIA actively lied to congress, ignoring any objections and even as this report was being gathered, they were hacking into the committee's computers to delete content. These are not good people but we are stuck with them because no-one is willing to do anything about it.

gasull 12y ago

TL;DR - anal rape - waterboarding - sleep deprivation - death threats

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