>And you know, these things are standard stuff that one would like to do for every project And its totally stupid, and the stupid persists, because 'its standa

>And you know, these things are standard stuff that one would like to do for every project And its totally stupid, and the stupid persists, because 'its standard' now. This is how stupid stuff becomes standard - people say "hey, this stupid stuff - its standard now". You're using the argument that its a good thing to have to do all of that stuff with one tool .. really? (Besides, Make can do all of that - you just have to configure it to do so, like any other tool..)