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Posting this from a throwaway account, because, well, you can never be too careful. Several points, as an American who has lived abroad for most of my life, an
by jqwerqlkwjgoi 12y ago
Posting this from a throwaway account, because, well, you can never be too careful.
Several points, as an American who has lived abroad for most of my life, and only recently found out about the taxation laws and requirements:
* the requirements are Overwhelming. Most people don't realize how bad it gets. It's not about the money (most "normal" Americans living abroad owe no money to the IRS), but about the reporting. Every bank account, every stock you own or owned within the last several years, every company you started, and guess what — even if you own 15% of an LLC, that is considered a "controlled company", so all of its financials are to be reported. It's insane!
* it's not work you can easily shift to an accountant. Oh, you do have to hire one, because there is no way a US citizen can do his own taxes (in contrast to most EU countries, for example), but you still have to prepare all the information. Ever tried to report interest (accrued monthly) on six bank accounts, in three currencies, over the past 6 years?
* the benefits of being an American: frankly, I can hardly name any these days. I guess the ability to work in the US counts as one.
* it used to be that having US citizenship would be a dream, especially for people in former Eastern European post-soviet countries. But this is no longer the case. These days being a citizen of one of the EU countries gives you much more benefits and earns you much less hate abroad.
The problem with taxation of expats is very, very serious, and as others have mentioned it is unlikely to be resolved, because there is no organized lobby. The real tax-evaders don't have this problem: it's "normal" people who do.
- kissickas 12y agoI'm an American expat (albeit a young one) and I agree that you have plenty of good points there. But how many are exclusive to the problem of expats and aren't just problems with the tax system in general? Maybe it's because I do see value in having an American citizenship, but I wouldn't mind paying taxes, even as an expat, if it were simpler. Luckily I'm young and make less than $97,600 (yet another seemingly arbitrary corner of the tax code), so I don't have to pay taxes. Of course, I still have to file and then request an exemption, but that's no surprise in a system where lawyers are the only ones voting on the laws.
- jqwerqlkwjgoi 12y agoI don't mind paying taxes. What I do mind is the overreaching US tax system which puts a huge reporting burden on expats. If you're young, things are slightly simpler. You don't have a financial history, you (usually) only have one bank account, no savings, no trust funds, no stocks, no shares in companies, and often no mortgage. Believe me, it gets much, much more complicated later on. But I do hope you know what FBAR and FATCA requirements are when you say that you file and request an exemption. I've seen other tax systems and the US one is the only one with these overblown reporting requirements.