The note with Java is spot on. Even with the new language constructs in Java 8 (map, stream, lambda etc). More than one time I've to stop and decide whether to

The note with Java is spot on. Even with the new language constructs in Java 8 (map, stream, lambda etc). More than one time I've to stop and decide whether to just use for loop rather than any of those higher level constructs. There are several cases where the use of map/ lambda looks worse than a for loop (when you have to chain them together, and the function to be used is not a class function etc.). And ugh, I have to "collect" after a map, what is that? If a for loop is 3 line, and you have to write 3 line with a whole bunch of "." for a map statement, it's probably of no help in term of expressiveness.