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I don't think the situations in Gaza and the West Bank can be treated as individual and isolated, though. Israeli oppression and annexation (confiscation) of We
by marvin 12y ago
I don't think the situations in Gaza and the West Bank can be treated as individual and isolated, though. Israeli oppression and annexation (confiscation) of West Bank territory breeds resentment and hatred among all Palestineans, though, and with good reason. I have never seen a good argument for why this policy should be in place. If you forcibly take away people's property and livelihood, of course they will want to defend themselves. Pulling out of Gaza was probably a good move on Israel's side, although it's incredibly sad that this opportunity has not even after a decade resulted in a higher standard of living for the people of Gaza.
Hamas, on the other hand, needs to act less like a terrorist organization and more like a mature government. I am certain that this last bit will not happen, but at least there are more sound arguments for why Hamas policy is foolish if Israel's peace-time policies are solid from a human rights perspective. Self-defense against terrorism and guerillia tactics is predictably destructive to the civilian population, so I'd rather not get into that bag of snakes. The only consolation is that international pressure holds the Israeli military to a relatively high moral standard; I shudder to think what would have happened under the military doctrines of the 1900s and before.
Finally, very happy to see that there is digital commerce going on in Gaza. Economic development is key to ensuring better lives and hopefully resolving this terrible conflict. So if the surveillance opportunity means that Gaza/West Bank internet traffic is relatively unhindered, that provides one sound channel through which commerce is possible (in spite of the perverted background of control and surveillance).
- ikonst 12y agoWell, Israeli actions can breed hatred amongst Jordanians or Egyptians as well, or amongst latte-drinking hipsters in Berkeley for that matter. It's a bit of a stretch to tie this to the people's welfare, that's all I'm saying. The blockade and limitations on peoples' movement actually affects people. The tirades about Israel on popular television (of any arab-speaking country), or the calls for martyrdom by clerics — it's silly to try and appease those. Israel should hold itself to a higher moral standard, as you've said. ... a-a-nd, I think we've gone wildly offtopic for HN, so let's just call people once again to support the Indiegogo campaign: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/save-gaza-s-only-startup-accelerator https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/save-gaza-s-only-startup-...