I think they're big enough for most of the developers that you might want to start hiring to care though. Finding and employing great PHP developers is really h

I think they're big enough for most of the developers that you might want to start hiring to care though. Finding and employing great PHP developers is really hard. Ruby, Node.js/Javascript, Python are all excellent, mature languages with huge pools of good developers (at least in London). They simply lack the ease of bootstrapping (as you pointed out).