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If her face is the only face that is critical to the image compression analysis, yes, you are completely right. I have a hard time understanding the knee jerk
by frontsideair 12y ago
If her face is the only face that is critical to the image compression analysis, yes, you are completely right.
I have a hard time understanding the knee jerk reaction to the change and the willingness to maintain the status quo. We have nothing to lose if the image is swapped with one that is less ostracizing --which is something Mozilla did in the past. Why defend it?
- CamperBob2 12y agoTechnically, the Lenna scan is indeed a bad reference image for numerous reasons, such as being blurry, heavily quantized, and composed of various shades of magenta and purple. Its value is more or less entirely nostalgic. So it wouldn't be worth defending at all, if it weren't being attacked on grounds I strongly disagree with, by people who I believe shouldn't gain any more influence over our culture than they already have.
- frontsideair 12y agoThanks for clarifying. I can relate, since I would also defend anything if it was criticized by people I didn't like. ...no wait, I wouldn't.
- CamperBob2 12y agoPlease don't put words in my mouth.
- frontsideair 12y ago> So it wouldn't be worth defending at all, if it weren't being attacked on grounds I strongly disagree with, by people who I believe shouldn't gain any more influence over our culture than they already have. Is it putting words in someone's mouth if said words are their own, I wonder?
- ANTSANTS 12y agoHe's not saying "I'm disagreeing with you because I dislike you," he's saying "I dislike you because I disagree with your ridiculous PC policemanship and the fact that a lot of people actually take it seriously."
- frontsideair 12y ago> I'm disagreeing with you because I dislike you > I dislike you because... Are you even aware you made my exact point?
- ANTSANTS 12y agoI disagree! You have the cause and effect mixed up. It's normal to dislike certain groups of people you strongly disagree with. For example, I imagine we both dislike gay bashers pretty strongly. You, on the other hand, were suggesting that CamperBob2 was arguing with you purely because he didn't like you, which would be pretty silly if it were true.
- frontsideair 12y agoI suggested the sole reason of him defending the status quo was that it was challenged by people he didn't like. I still believe it's true.
- plesner 12y ago> So it wouldn't be worth defending at all, if it weren't being attacked on grounds I strongly disagree with, by people who I believe shouldn't gain any more influence over our culture than they already have. I'm having trouble understanding what this means, concretely. Do you think it would be a bad thing if computer science became less of a boys club? Or do you not believe that is why people dislike the picture? Who is it exactly that has too much power over "our" culture -- women? Politically correct killjoys?
- CamperBob2 12y agoWho is it exactly that has too much power over "our" culture -- women? Politically correct killjoys? On the Internet it's hard to be sure, but I haven't seen any negative comments about lenna.jpg that I can attribute to women qua women. So I guess that leaves door #2, huh?
- GFK_of_xmaspast 12y agoPeople are still up in arms about the last time Mozilla made a swap to be less ostracizing.