I think what I said came across wrong, sorry. I fully agree, I find the whole ecosystem really confusing. Every time I look at it there's some new combination

I think what I said came across wrong, sorry. I fully agree, I find the whole ecosystem really confusing. Every time I look at it there's some new combination of things, but then one turns out to be alpha/beta ... What I hope is that the production of these new docker 'blessed' tools will allow me to go to their homepage and see a series of "getting started" tutorials and easily installable tools so I can at least get going.