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The mind-bending effects of feeling two hearts

23 points by d_a_robson 12y ago

domdip 12y ago
I found this really fluffy. Not even sure how I'd tl;dr it. Some people are more aware of their heartbeat than others, and that correlates with a few arbitrary things that seem to line up with our sentimental understanding of 'heart'?
- Mithaldu 12y ago
  BBC Future tends to write articles that border on the nonsensical. I suspect they're made by writers who're tasked to simply churn out a lot of words, regardless of the quality of their writing.
drcomputer 12y ago
I had thought something similar to this, that a person's internal state of 'feeling / intuition / empathy' was oriented around the combination of certain kinds of sensory / intellectual input reacting with the body, that are not cognitively consciously modeled, but abstracted and correlated against the body. If a person can notice a correlation between body reaction and external world reaction, then their intellect may not necessarily be able to conceptualize or mode the processes that occur, but they may 'know' certain things because of the frequency of the correlation. I tend to think this is why I am very analytically oriented - my health was often variant throughout my adolescence and adulthood, and I never could ever understand what people meant by 'gut reaction' or 'heart feeling', aside from literally being convinced it was nonsense. I've always had to intellectualize and conceptually model things, which actually makes finding socialization patterns and trends (with myself as a participant) extremely difficult. It also explains how many people learn to feel and judge the world in an origin dependent manner, with early stimuli shaping the interpretation (relations and models) of sensory percepts. I rarely can tell the difference between my feelings, and the feelings of others. I check them logically and experimentally, which is pointless and ironic, but it makes as much sense to me as thinking that when someone is smiling at you, they are happy. It's an aggregation of data, correlated and adjusted when the theory doesn't match reality. It's not that I don't care about what people think, it's just that it's impossible to know or even hypothesize about based on external observations and judgments using a single point perspective. I have to hope that language efficiently facilitates clarity, but I've fallen into similar analytical wormholes there too. So then there's trust, or something.
p0ckets 12y ago
It sounds like they have made the pump pump at the same time his heart beats.
userbinator 12y ago
I wonder what the effects of feeling no heartbeat would be... http://www.npr.org/2011/06/13/137029208/heart-with-no-beat-offers-hope-of-new-lease-on-life http://www.npr.org/2011/06/13/137029208/heart-with-no-beat-o...
ashmud 12y ago
I must admit, when I read the title, the first thing I thought of was Doctor Who having two hearts.

23 points by d_a_robson 12y ago

I found this really fluffy. Not even sure how I'd tl;dr it. Some people are more aware of their heartbeat than others, and that correlates with a few arbitrary things that seem to line up with our sentimental understanding of 'heart'?

Mithaldu 12y ago
BBC Future tends to write articles that border on the nonsensical. I suspect they're made by writers who're tasked to simply churn out a lot of words, regardless of the quality of their writing.

drcomputer 12y ago

I had thought something similar to this, that a person's internal state of 'feeling / intuition / empathy' was oriented around the combination of certain kinds of sensory / intellectual input reacting with the body, that are not cognitively consciously modeled, but abstracted and correlated against the body. If a person can notice a correlation between body reaction and external world reaction, then their intellect may not necessarily be able to conceptualize or mode the processes that occur, but they may 'know' certain things because of the frequency of the correlation. I tend to think this is why I am very analytically oriented - my health was often variant throughout my adolescence and adulthood, and I never could ever understand what people meant by 'gut reaction' or 'heart feeling', aside from literally being convinced it was nonsense. I've always had to intellectualize and conceptually model things, which actually makes finding socialization patterns and trends (with myself as a participant) extremely difficult. It also explains how many people learn to feel and judge the world in an origin dependent manner, with early stimuli shaping the interpretation (relations and models) of sensory percepts. I rarely can tell the difference between my feelings, and the feelings of others. I check them logically and experimentally, which is pointless and ironic, but it makes as much sense to me as thinking that when someone is smiling at you, they are happy. It's an aggregation of data, correlated and adjusted when the theory doesn't match reality. It's not that I don't care about what people think, it's just that it's impossible to know or even hypothesize about based on external observations and judgments using a single point perspective. I have to hope that language efficiently facilitates clarity, but I've fallen into similar analytical wormholes there too. So then there's trust, or something.

p0ckets 12y ago

It sounds like they have made the pump pump at the same time his heart beats.

userbinator 12y ago

I wonder what the effects of feeling no heartbeat would be... http://www.npr.org/2011/06/13/137029208/heart-with-no-beat-offers-hope-of-new-lease-on-life http://www.npr.org/2011/06/13/137029208/heart-with-no-beat-o...

ashmud 12y ago

I must admit, when I read the title, the first thing I thought of was Doctor Who having two hearts.