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The ASP.NET part is what has me excited - it wasn't clear from the article (it may be due to my limited knowledge of the ASP.NET stack) but if I could write a f

The ASP.NET part is what has me excited - it wasn't clear from the article (it may be due to my limited knowledge of the ASP.NET stack) but if I could write a full fledged ASP.NET app on Linux using the often needed features like ORM, LINQ, whatever the equivalent of JSF is - that would be a great development. Right now on *NIX platforms nothing matches the maturity of Java/J2EE. It still remains to be seen how much the of the tooling - debuggers, profilers, deployment tools etc. will be available on non-Windows platforms. May be that will become available as more and more people start using it in Production.

aespinoza 12y ago
My understanding is that .NET core will not include tooling. This project's focused on delivering a framework only, the Open Source Community (Mono Developers in this case) will take care of the rest. Now, Xamarin has been doing a good job of creating beautiful and powerful tools, so I assume the tooling will be really good. Hopefully one day we will see Visual Studio supported by Microsoft on Linux and Mac. But I also hope other providers, like Jetbrains step up to make .Net amazing on Linux and Mac. So either way this is amazing.
- michaelsbradley 12y ago
  Although it's focused only on C# at the moment, OmniSharp seems to be taking cross-platform .NET tooling in a good direction: http://www.omnisharp.net/ http://www.omnisharp.net/
  - theflork 12y ago
    intellisense as a service!
  - aespinoza 12y ago
    This is a great resources, thanks for sharing. I usually use Xamarin Studio and Emacs in Linux and Mac. OmniSharp integrates with Emacs, that is pretty cool.
- blinkingled 12y ago
  I think Microsoft will have to step up as well - they have an incentive to do so - Azure. If Azure becomes a #1 platform for people wanting to deploy ASP.NET web apps on Linux they will see some real traction if they make the tooling solid. Otherwise sadly this will be just another niche, also-have thing.
- girvo 12y ago
  I haven't used Microsoft products full time for... nearly 9 years, now. But if Visual Studio was supported on OSX/Linux, I'd switch to using it (even paying for a license) in a heartbeat -- it's an amazing IDE, and for some features it's unparallelled.
  - jdc0589 12y ago
    Out of curiosity, what features are you referring to?
    - Demiurge 12y ago
      I'm not sure what he's talking about, but I haven't found a nicer debugger (for every language it handles) anywhere else.
    - aespinoza 12y ago
      Visual Studio is not just an IDE and a Debugger. It has a Performance Analyzer, Code Coverage for Tests, Dependency Analyzer, Diagram Tools, Concurrency Analyzer, Javascript Analyzer, among others. VS is the complete package for sure.
emsy 12y ago
I really wish for better Desktop App support. Many of the Windows applications I miss on Linux are written in .NET and running them with Mono looks terrible and often has a few problems. Or maybe I'm just silently hoping that 2015 is the year of the Linux desktop and it's sponsored by Microsoft.
- Maarten88 12y ago
  A port of Xamarin Forms to Linux would make this possible. I hope someone would pick this up. Over time this could enable a single UI technology to target native UI's of all major desktop and mobile platforms.
  - sandyarmstrong 12y ago
    Xamarin Forms isn't supported on any desktop platform. Xwt (https://github.com/mono/xwt https://github.com/mono/xwt) is probably a more appropriate choice.
- jbigelow76 12y ago
  With all this open sourcing and moves to address other platforms I've wondered if MS will soon roll out some kind of harness or wrapper app that can be used to host WPF built desktop apps on Linux and Mac.
  - tonyedgecombe 12y ago
    If they ever decide they need Visual Studio to run on the Mac then I'm sure WPF would come to the Mac. Other than that I think they have given up on it.
minthd 12y ago
Currently if you include xamarin, .net is among the best platforms if you care about cross platform development(with the ability to deploy native apps). And i don't see anybody who can replace that in the near term.

aespinoza 12y ago

My understanding is that .NET core will not include tooling. This project's focused on delivering a framework only, the Open Source Community (Mono Developers in this case) will take care of the rest. Now, Xamarin has been doing a good job of creating beautiful and powerful tools, so I assume the tooling will be really good. Hopefully one day we will see Visual Studio supported by Microsoft on Linux and Mac. But I also hope other providers, like Jetbrains step up to make .Net amazing on Linux and Mac. So either way this is amazing.

michaelsbradley 12y ago
Although it's focused only on C# at the moment, OmniSharp seems to be taking cross-platform .NET tooling in a good direction: http://www.omnisharp.net/ http://www.omnisharp.net/
- theflork 12y ago
  intellisense as a service!
- aespinoza 12y ago
  This is a great resources, thanks for sharing. I usually use Xamarin Studio and Emacs in Linux and Mac. OmniSharp integrates with Emacs, that is pretty cool.
blinkingled 12y ago
I think Microsoft will have to step up as well - they have an incentive to do so - Azure. If Azure becomes a #1 platform for people wanting to deploy ASP.NET web apps on Linux they will see some real traction if they make the tooling solid. Otherwise sadly this will be just another niche, also-have thing.
girvo 12y ago
I haven't used Microsoft products full time for... nearly 9 years, now. But if Visual Studio was supported on OSX/Linux, I'd switch to using it (even paying for a license) in a heartbeat -- it's an amazing IDE, and for some features it's unparallelled.
- jdc0589 12y ago
  Out of curiosity, what features are you referring to?
  - Demiurge 12y ago
    I'm not sure what he's talking about, but I haven't found a nicer debugger (for every language it handles) anywhere else.
  - aespinoza 12y ago
    Visual Studio is not just an IDE and a Debugger. It has a Performance Analyzer, Code Coverage for Tests, Dependency Analyzer, Diagram Tools, Concurrency Analyzer, Javascript Analyzer, among others. VS is the complete package for sure.

emsy 12y ago

I really wish for better Desktop App support. Many of the Windows applications I miss on Linux are written in .NET and running them with Mono looks terrible and often has a few problems. Or maybe I'm just silently hoping that 2015 is the year of the Linux desktop and it's sponsored by Microsoft.

Maarten88 12y ago
A port of Xamarin Forms to Linux would make this possible. I hope someone would pick this up. Over time this could enable a single UI technology to target native UI's of all major desktop and mobile platforms.
- sandyarmstrong 12y ago
  Xamarin Forms isn't supported on any desktop platform. Xwt (https://github.com/mono/xwt https://github.com/mono/xwt) is probably a more appropriate choice.
jbigelow76 12y ago
With all this open sourcing and moves to address other platforms I've wondered if MS will soon roll out some kind of harness or wrapper app that can be used to host WPF built desktop apps on Linux and Mac.
- tonyedgecombe 12y ago
  If they ever decide they need Visual Studio to run on the Mac then I'm sure WPF would come to the Mac. Other than that I think they have given up on it.

minthd 12y ago

Currently if you include xamarin, .net is among the best platforms if you care about cross platform development(with the ability to deploy native apps). And i don't see anybody who can replace that in the near term.