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Have you participated in any other open source projects? All of them with any success in the community (that I can think of) have a monarchy or oligarchy at the

by potto 12y ago

Have you participated in any other open source projects? All of them with any success in the community (that I can think of) have a monarchy or oligarchy at the head. Anyone may contribute, and a group of committers review and add if the contribution fits the project... who determines what the project and its roadmap? Usually a select few, driven by even fewer or just one. So I don't think it's necessarily unusual that Solomon heads it. As an aside - I've watched headless projects devolve into anarchy... here's a good read from years ago - http://ariya.blogspot.com/2008/03/common-characteristics-of-failed-open.html http://ariya.blogspot.com/2008/03/common-characteristics-of-...

jbeda 12y ago
You are right -- perhaps I'm being unfair. It is Docker's right to run their project as they see fit. I'm glad to see the new projects (swarm, at least) layered on top of Docker. It is good to see those sink/swim on their own. I was uncomfortable when Docker was (last week) going down the path of building everything into their existing binary.
- 23david 12y ago
  You're more than fair. They made the rules, and I guess they can break the rules. But really, the value of the project lies in the community's continued support and backing of the project. The good thing is that this is open-source Apache-licensed code. Easy enough to fork it if necessary, even if just temporarily while we wait for another project to mature and replace it. Hudson -> Jenkins Mysql -> MariaDB Docker -> ???
  - throwaway_nsa 12y ago
    You should curb the anti-American attitude or we will make sure you do.
  - throwawaynsa 12y ago
    You should curb the anti-Americanism or we will do it for you.
- choppaface 12y ago
  Even if they were in the main binary, do the technical consequences really outweigh the politics? Joe I can appreciate the drive to aggressively monetize a specific business model ;) but if you really feel what you've seen at Google should win, you'll have much more leverage taking a pedagogical approach. Appreciate that you have certain duties.... perhaps you might have had more agency at Facebook?
justincormack 12y ago
FreeBSD has no monarchy. Nor does the Apache process.
fatherlinnux 12y ago
OpenStack????
- nl 12y ago
  The perfect example of a headless project achieving a lot less than it should.
23david 12y ago
Benevolent dictator can work. But here Docker has said they want to make it possible for the project to be community led and run over time. Actions on the ground speak otherwise. Hard to restore trust once lost.

by potto 12y ago

jbeda 12y ago

You are right -- perhaps I'm being unfair. It is Docker's right to run their project as they see fit. I'm glad to see the new projects (swarm, at least) layered on top of Docker. It is good to see those sink/swim on their own. I was uncomfortable when Docker was (last week) going down the path of building everything into their existing binary.

23david 12y ago
You're more than fair. They made the rules, and I guess they can break the rules. But really, the value of the project lies in the community's continued support and backing of the project. The good thing is that this is open-source Apache-licensed code. Easy enough to fork it if necessary, even if just temporarily while we wait for another project to mature and replace it. Hudson -> Jenkins Mysql -> MariaDB Docker -> ???
- throwaway_nsa 12y ago
  You should curb the anti-American attitude or we will make sure you do.
- throwawaynsa 12y ago
  You should curb the anti-Americanism or we will do it for you.
choppaface 12y ago
Even if they were in the main binary, do the technical consequences really outweigh the politics? Joe I can appreciate the drive to aggressively monetize a specific business model ;) but if you really feel what you've seen at Google should win, you'll have much more leverage taking a pedagogical approach. Appreciate that you have certain duties.... perhaps you might have had more agency at Facebook?

justincormack 12y ago

FreeBSD has no monarchy. Nor does the Apache process.

fatherlinnux 12y ago

OpenStack????

nl 12y ago
The perfect example of a headless project achieving a lot less than it should.

23david 12y ago

Benevolent dictator can work. But here Docker has said they want to make it possible for the project to be community led and run over time. Actions on the ground speak otherwise. Hard to restore trust once lost.