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I actually think the opposite. The way it is built is just perfect to get used to automation of hands. You have the feeling right away that you can use "tab" a

I actually think the opposite. The way it is built is just perfect to get used to automation of hands. You have the feeling right away that you can use "tab" and "space" to change/fill/move things in those. Putting more fancy things and making it not "boring" is not an easy job and most of the time fails i think. "make users feel more at home" will lead users to be focusing less time on the actual task and more time on the tool, isn't it ? Apart from what this framework does (didn't have time to play much), I congratulate the UX guys on this project for choosing this kind of design and behaviour. They could have totally another idea maybe for going this path but i love it.

rrrx3 12y ago
The research shows that there should be a greater convergence because of the cognitive dissonance that occurs otherwise. It is an inarguable fact that people are using software in all aspects of their lives - to have a simplified, straightforward experience in one instance and not the other is a huge source of frustration. I'm not trying to insinuate that making things "not boring" and simplifying is in any way easy. There are plenty of consumer apps that get this totally wrong. As far as "making them feel more at home" - the more comfortable a user is with an application, the less likely they are to make mistakes. The less mistakes, the more efficiency. The more efficiency, the either: A) less time spent in the application (for ad-hoc, or get in and get out applications - a common staple) or B) more tasks accomplished (for bread-and-butter, run the business, 24/7/365 applications) I want to be clear - I think that what has been built is an excellent job wrt technical implementation. However, the driving design justification seems wholly contrary to the direction the industry is (trying) to move toward.
- mhd 12y ago
  > to have a simplified, straightforward experience in one instance and not the other is a huge source of frustration I fail to see how "simplified" and "bland" relate to each other here in opposing ways. Leaflets to join a gym and tax forms don't really have to share the same design goals, and anything beyond a landing page on the "home" interwebs tends to gravitate towards a more unified, "boring" appearance, too (standard desktop GUIs for the longest time, facebook, almost anything by Google -- or, well, this site). It would seem that having less colorful, unique splashes would actually run contrary to that, culminating in the abominations we've seen done with Flash in the past (or game GUIs, "unique" and/or cross-platform mobile app). Or the dreaded skeuomorphims we're just growing out of. Could you give any examples of common webapps that would be the right way to approach e.g. a corporate CRM?
  - rrrx3 12y ago
    Honestly, Google Docs is a prime example of how to accurately build a cross-functional Business vs Personal needs application.

rrrx3 12y ago

The research shows that there should be a greater convergence because of the cognitive dissonance that occurs otherwise. It is an inarguable fact that people are using software in all aspects of their lives - to have a simplified, straightforward experience in one instance and not the other is a huge source of frustration. I'm not trying to insinuate that making things "not boring" and simplifying is in any way easy. There are plenty of consumer apps that get this totally wrong. As far as "making them feel more at home" - the more comfortable a user is with an application, the less likely they are to make mistakes. The less mistakes, the more efficiency. The more efficiency, the either: A) less time spent in the application (for ad-hoc, or get in and get out applications - a common staple) or B) more tasks accomplished (for bread-and-butter, run the business, 24/7/365 applications) I want to be clear - I think that what has been built is an excellent job wrt technical implementation. However, the driving design justification seems wholly contrary to the direction the industry is (trying) to move toward.

mhd 12y ago
> to have a simplified, straightforward experience in one instance and not the other is a huge source of frustration I fail to see how "simplified" and "bland" relate to each other here in opposing ways. Leaflets to join a gym and tax forms don't really have to share the same design goals, and anything beyond a landing page on the "home" interwebs tends to gravitate towards a more unified, "boring" appearance, too (standard desktop GUIs for the longest time, facebook, almost anything by Google -- or, well, this site). It would seem that having less colorful, unique splashes would actually run contrary to that, culminating in the abominations we've seen done with Flash in the past (or game GUIs, "unique" and/or cross-platform mobile app). Or the dreaded skeuomorphims we're just growing out of. Could you give any examples of common webapps that would be the right way to approach e.g. a corporate CRM?
- rrrx3 12y ago
  Honestly, Google Docs is a prime example of how to accurately build a cross-functional Business vs Personal needs application.