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I do not get the problem of hiring a clickfarm for 1$ an hour to click on cat pics. If we take reputation, IP and cookie. All must be in order to pass. We want
by compbio 12y ago
I do not get the problem of hiring a clickfarm for 1$ an hour to click on cat pics.
If we take reputation, IP and cookie. All must be in order to pass. We want to spam a 1000 forms today. Scenario 1: The clickfarm itself fills in the Captcha. Result: Their IP's will soon be blacklisted, reputation of a third-world account will be inherently low. Scenario 2: We let the clickfarm send the answer to our own bot, which selects the right pictures. Result: Google will see a single IP and cookie trying out 1000s of captcha's a day, and ban you. Scenario 3: We let the clickfarm send the answer to our own bot, this bot uses a list of proxies that haven't yet been banned. Result: Google will see a single account cookie trying out 1000s of captcha's a day, from different IP's and ban you.
Can anyone come up with a scenario which involves reputation, IP and cookie that does not end up with Google detecting and banning your efforts? Cookie swapping?
- homakov 12y agoScenario 1 - we don't need to create a clickfarm for this, maybe we can clickjack random users online. Literally every porn site will be happy to make some money with it. Scenario 2 - of course we won't just use 1 IP, it will make us look Bad guy. Speaking of Scenario 3 - which account cookie are you talking about? The clickfarm has thousands of own trustworthy cookies but our bot doesn't send any cookies, it only solves challenges (neutral guy). As soon as you have valid g-recaptcha response you don't need to persist any cookies - use it outright.
- choppaface 12y ago+1 also consider s/click farm/malware worm bot/g
- homakov 12y agoYeah malware bot will generate lots of free g-recaptcha-responses! Good idea
- probably_wrong 12y agoHere's a scenario: a dissident living in a third world country with pervasive surveillance. He accesses the net using TOR, and disables cookies. Now his IP is blacklisted, because there are lots of people using the same exit node; his reputation is low for the same reason, and the cookie is rejected. There's a good chance that this one person will be blocked, even though he didn't do anything wrong. For a simpler case, private browser sessions over a VPN would suffer from the same issue.
- unreal37 12y agoI would argue that the problem of spam and hackers is a greater burden on society as a whole than someone in Iran not being able to get past a captcha.
- scribu 12y agoYeah, seeing a few spam links on a website is much more burdensome than free speech!</sarcasm>
- pavel_lishin 12y agoDepends on what variables you're plugging into your moral calculus. Spam typically doesn't actually cause bodily harm, political repression, etc.
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- Aissen 12y agoScenario 4: you use botnets. 1 IP, 1 account = a few attempts, and you scale by renting a bigger botnet.