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The author seems like an optimist, but "many core contributors will help maintain both node.js and io.js" seems to disagree with reality, since indutny has been

The author seems like an optimist, but "many core contributors will help maintain both node.js and io.js" seems to disagree with reality, since indutny has been landing PRs to node only in the forks. He's a core contributor. If he needs sign-off or whatever, it's not like he doesn't have friends in all the forks. I'm pre-emptively calling bullshit on anyone who invokes the Joyent bogeyman here; tons of PRs land without their involvement. What's the difference here. That's pretty antagonistic IYAM.

bevacqua 12y ago
Fedor kind of started the whole thing, though. http://www.infoworld.com/article/2855057/application-development/why-iojs-decided-to-fork-nodejs.html http://www.infoworld.com/article/2855057/application-develop...
bynaryshef 12y ago
I agree .. this is basically what Rocket is doing is response to the commercial support of Docker. I haven't seen what tangible value io.js or Rocket are going to add. It's basically 'we aren't a corporation' and that doesn't add value by itself. If they want to look at a good example of a clone that has added value they should look at Mono/Xamarin.
- darkarmani 12y ago
  > I agree .. this is basically what Rocket is doing is response to the commercial support of Docker. What? That's what came away with? Even shykes didn't accuse them of that.
- hugozap 12y ago
  Frequent releases add value, Faster integration of v8 updates add value. It's not as simple as you state.
svincent 12y ago
I'm not following your argument. They stated "many core contributors" not "all core contributors". Obviously some people will only work with one project or the other. Could you clarify?
- scljstcwombat 12y ago
  No, because it's perfectly clear. But perhaps I can restate: indutny's behaving in bad faith, which should be perfectly obvious to anyone. Max Ogden (the original and unofficial author of the opinion posted above) would like to believe there is no antagonism here. If this were just some third party, perhaps this wouldn't be significant. But indutny's on node core, the technical committee, the advisory board meetings, and is the original forker of io.js. His actions are central here.

bevacqua 12y ago

Fedor kind of started the whole thing, though. http://www.infoworld.com/article/2855057/application-development/why-iojs-decided-to-fork-nodejs.html http://www.infoworld.com/article/2855057/application-develop...

bynaryshef 12y ago

I agree .. this is basically what Rocket is doing is response to the commercial support of Docker. I haven't seen what tangible value io.js or Rocket are going to add. It's basically 'we aren't a corporation' and that doesn't add value by itself. If they want to look at a good example of a clone that has added value they should look at Mono/Xamarin.

darkarmani 12y ago
> I agree .. this is basically what Rocket is doing is response to the commercial support of Docker. What? That's what came away with? Even shykes didn't accuse them of that.
hugozap 12y ago
Frequent releases add value, Faster integration of v8 updates add value. It's not as simple as you state.

svincent 12y ago

I'm not following your argument. They stated "many core contributors" not "all core contributors". Obviously some people will only work with one project or the other. Could you clarify?

scljstcwombat 12y ago
No, because it's perfectly clear. But perhaps I can restate: indutny's behaving in bad faith, which should be perfectly obvious to anyone. Max Ogden (the original and unofficial author of the opinion posted above) would like to believe there is no antagonism here. If this were just some third party, perhaps this wouldn't be significant. But indutny's on node core, the technical committee, the advisory board meetings, and is the original forker of io.js. His actions are central here.