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Came in to reply similarly, the rules and rights of students in school are not what children want them to be. Ignorant staff or not, the best way to get through
by sosuke 12y ago
Came in to reply similarly, the rules and rights of students in school are not what children want them to be. Ignorant staff or not, the best way to get through school is to play by the rules. If you want to change those rules, you have to do so after growing up, going through college to be an educator and administrator, then joining into that system and changing it from there. It takes a lifetime of dedication, so just get your work done, hack elsewhere, stay on your own machine and you'll excel after school.
I ran into administration on multiple occasions, and within the broader laws of corporal punishment they can exact any reasonable, or unreasonable, punishments. I've heard of schools now taxing parents if students are tardy, moving the responsibility up. You don't have the same rights as an adult when you're in school, you don't get to do what you want, conversely when you do screw up you don't get as heavy handed a punishment an adult might.
Imagine the same scenario, but instead of school, this is the place you work, and instead of a school administration its the IT department bringing you in. You'll lose your job pretty darn quick right? Even if you're innocently exploring, cross the wrong person and you'll get cut.
Additionally, instead of complaining about the school we should be congratulating the kid. He or she has bucked the system, questioned authority, pushed their boundaries, found limits, and circumvented them. Don't come to their defense, it will do them no good to continue growing, instead help them back up, pat them on the back and say 'good job'. He or she is a welcome addition to society! Congrats on questioning authority and sticking to what you believe, I can't wait to see what you do.
- tomjen3 12y agoI cannot believe I am reading this on hacker news. Your comment is so far from the spirit of hacking that I, frankly, have no idea what the heel you are doing here. Just know that if the Apple founders had taken you advice there wouldn't have been an Apple today.
- sosuke 12y agoPerhaps I didn't get my point across adequately enough then, hacking is awesome, it should be encouraged and supported. However complaining that a school does what it does best, stifling the creative and curious mind, is silly. We can discuss improving schools, but I'd rather just tell this young person that they are doing well, right, and to stay curious and keep questioning things. I'd love to be more clear, but you didn't specify, what, if anything, was against the spirit of hacking or hacker news.
- iak8god 12y ago> complaining that a school does what it does best, stifling the creative and curious mind, is silly. This is exactly the opposite of what a school is supposed to do. Spreading awareness that the system is so badly broken ("complaining") is anything but silly.
- tomjen3 12y agoI was arguing against the notion that they should go the traditionalist way and become an educator to change the system, I was arguing against the school being right about their actions, I was arguing for disrupting rules that only exist to protect the status que.