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You are entitled. Has calling someone entitled ever been useful? For the last few years it's felt like nothing more than a petty "you're wrong" remark with bo

You are entitled. Has calling someone entitled ever been useful? For the last few years it's felt like nothing more than a petty "you're wrong" remark with bonus condensation built right in.

freshhawk 12y ago
Been useful at changing their behaviour/beliefs? No, for the same psychological reasons any direct contradiction isn't. Been useful at communicating that they feel someone is confusing expectations with rights? Yes, that's why there is a word for it. Also, I get it's annoying to hear entitled, ad hominem, logical fallacy, privilege, and other currently trendy words being over used and often misused. But I'll take it over what there was before that, which was no discussion at all at that level of abstraction most of the time. The places where these words are overused are places where the community is learning these concepts.
balls187 12y ago
>Has calling someone entitled ever been useful? Not useful, and more over, it's ad hominem.
- redthrowaway 12y ago
  It's only ad hominem if it's used as support for an argument not directly related to the other's personality. It's not ad hominem in this case, because "you're entitled" is being used to support the claim, or as a parallel claim, that it's unreasonable to be insulted by a computer program thinking you're another computer program. Claim: Turing was wrong about the Church-Turing Thesis because he was a homosexual -> ad hominem Claim: Turing was immoral because he was a homosexual -> not ad hominem (although still not a good argument)
slayed0 12y ago
Do you mean condescension? Not trying to be a smart ass, I just got a chuckle out of the word choice.
- pcthrowaway 12y ago
  There you go, being condensing again.
- DavidWanjiru 12y ago
  You need to chill out!
blisterpeanuts 12y ago
> Has calling someone entitled ever been useful? For the last few years it's felt like nothing more than a petty "you're wrong" remark with bonus condensation built right in. In this case, calling someone entitled is actually a compliment, not an ad hominem insult or put-down, because it acknowledges the poster's humanity. The proper response in this case would be, "Why, yes, I probably am a bit entitled, like most people. Thank you for recognizing that I am human."
hawleyal 12y ago
Is this Reddit? What year is it?

You are entitled. Has calling someone entitled ever been useful? For the last few years it's felt like nothing more than a petty "you're wrong" remark with bonus condensation built right in.

freshhawk 12y ago

Been useful at changing their behaviour/beliefs? No, for the same psychological reasons any direct contradiction isn't. Been useful at communicating that they feel someone is confusing expectations with rights? Yes, that's why there is a word for it. Also, I get it's annoying to hear entitled, ad hominem, logical fallacy, privilege, and other currently trendy words being over used and often misused. But I'll take it over what there was before that, which was no discussion at all at that level of abstraction most of the time. The places where these words are overused are places where the community is learning these concepts.

balls187 12y ago

>Has calling someone entitled ever been useful? Not useful, and more over, it's ad hominem.

redthrowaway 12y ago
It's only ad hominem if it's used as support for an argument not directly related to the other's personality. It's not ad hominem in this case, because "you're entitled" is being used to support the claim, or as a parallel claim, that it's unreasonable to be insulted by a computer program thinking you're another computer program. Claim: Turing was wrong about the Church-Turing Thesis because he was a homosexual -> ad hominem Claim: Turing was immoral because he was a homosexual -> not ad hominem (although still not a good argument)

slayed0 12y ago

Do you mean condescension? Not trying to be a smart ass, I just got a chuckle out of the word choice.

pcthrowaway 12y ago
There you go, being condensing again.
DavidWanjiru 12y ago
You need to chill out!

blisterpeanuts 12y ago

> Has calling someone entitled ever been useful? For the last few years it's felt like nothing more than a petty "you're wrong" remark with bonus condensation built right in. In this case, calling someone entitled is actually a compliment, not an ad hominem insult or put-down, because it acknowledges the poster's humanity. The proper response in this case would be, "Why, yes, I probably am a bit entitled, like most people. Thank you for recognizing that I am human."

hawleyal 12y ago

Is this Reddit? What year is it?