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Something here I don't understand. First, the terms state that there are two kinds of governing laws: One for those using the service outside the US, and one fo

by mrsaint 12y ago

Something here I don't understand. First, the terms state that there are two kinds of governing laws: One for those using the service outside the US, and one for those from the US. This is the first time I see a supposedly non-US company applying two different laws. Also, if you go through the terms, you see that basically any legal aspect is governed by the County of San Francisco, California. Why not Switzerland where the company was supposedly formed and is located in? Second, as of right now, there is no mentioning of a "Wire Swiss GmbH" in the Swiss commercial registry. That's quite severe because under Swiss law, you are not allowed to represent to the outside a juristic person as long as it is not in the official registry. Here is the link to the registry: http://zefix.ch/zfx-cgi/hrform.cgi/hraPage?alle_eintr=on&pers_sort=original&pers_num=0&language=4&col_width=366&amt=007 http://zefix.ch/zfx-cgi/hrform.cgi/hraPage?alle_eintr=on&per...

AhtiK 12y ago
The Mac App Store app [1] is submitted by "Zeta Project Swiss GmbH" which does exist in the registry [2]. [1] https://itunes.apple.com/app/wire/id931134707?mt=12 https://itunes.apple.com/app/wire/id931134707?mt=12 [2] http://www.hrazg.ch/webservices/inet/HRG/HRG.asmx/getHRGHTML?chnr=1704011490&amt=170&toBeModified=0&validOnly=0&lang=4&sort=0 http://www.hrazg.ch/webservices/inet/HRG/HRG.asmx/getHRGHTML...
- mrsaint 12y ago
  Interesting. Judging from this LinkedIn page [1], Wire Swiss GmbH has been around since at least March 2014, and has between 50-200 employees [2]. My guess: they renamed Zeta Project to Wire, but didn't want to wait with the announcement until it's updated in the registry? Still not sure what's up with the two governing laws. [1] https://www.linkedin.com/pub/pierrine-auberson/5a/70a/537 https://www.linkedin.com/pub/pierrine-auberson/5a/70a/537 [2] https://www.linkedin.com/company/4836762 https://www.linkedin.com/company/4836762
Schweigi 12y ago
Based on the address I would guess its only a mailbox anyway.
- mrsaint 12y ago
  Yes, at this address is a "workplace provider" [1] where you can get a virtual office starting at 180 SFr/Month. [1] http://www.en.regus.ch/ http://www.en.regus.ch/

by mrsaint 12y ago

AhtiK 12y ago

The Mac App Store app [1] is submitted by "Zeta Project Swiss GmbH" which does exist in the registry [2]. [1] https://itunes.apple.com/app/wire/id931134707?mt=12 https://itunes.apple.com/app/wire/id931134707?mt=12 [2] http://www.hrazg.ch/webservices/inet/HRG/HRG.asmx/getHRGHTML?chnr=1704011490&amt=170&toBeModified=0&validOnly=0&lang=4&sort=0 http://www.hrazg.ch/webservices/inet/HRG/HRG.asmx/getHRGHTML...

mrsaint 12y ago
Interesting. Judging from this LinkedIn page [1], Wire Swiss GmbH has been around since at least March 2014, and has between 50-200 employees [2]. My guess: they renamed Zeta Project to Wire, but didn't want to wait with the announcement until it's updated in the registry? Still not sure what's up with the two governing laws. [1] https://www.linkedin.com/pub/pierrine-auberson/5a/70a/537 https://www.linkedin.com/pub/pierrine-auberson/5a/70a/537 [2] https://www.linkedin.com/company/4836762 https://www.linkedin.com/company/4836762

Schweigi 12y ago

Based on the address I would guess its only a mailbox anyway.

mrsaint 12y ago
Yes, at this address is a "workplace provider" [1] where you can get a virtual office starting at 180 SFr/Month. [1] http://www.en.regus.ch/ http://www.en.regus.ch/