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> May be for western people it's hard to believe how can it be possible to support this crazy regime. For me, it is not. As an example, for me the US is comple

by mahouse 12y ago

> May be for western people it's hard to believe how can it be possible to support this crazy regime. For me, it is not. As an example, for me the US is completely nuts, but you know, they like what they like. You can think some things are normal just because you're used to them, but that means nothing. > This is why Russia has no future as a liberal market-driven country. And what if they don't want to play that game?

Lapsa 12y ago
I'm in between and I think that both - US and RF are completely nuts :D
- dasil003 12y ago
  As an American, I agree. I think both cultures have little interest in having an honest debate about how to foster a good society across the board. Politicians pay it lip service, but behind the façade everyone is just trying to get theirs in the US just as it is in RF.
  - tormeh 12y ago
    NO! Common misunderstanding among Americans who haven't traveled much. You don't even need to go to Russia. Just go to Mexico and it will give you a small taste of how bad things can get. The only way Russia could be worse is if it had feudal slavery. Ok, there are corrupt people everywhere, but there are often cultural limits on what people will let others and themselves get away with. Those limits are pretty high in the US, but they basically don't exist in Russia. As to not being interested in figuring out how to create a good society, you're correct. They're both way too exceptional for that.
    - dasil003 12y ago
      LOL, you know what they say about assuming right? Turns out I'm half-Brazilian and I currently live in the UK. I spent part of my childhood in the 80s in Brazil so I know a thing or two about corruption. Anyway, not sure what you were responding "NO" to as you explicitly agreed with the only assertion that I actually made rather than the stereotype that jubilantly flowered forth in your mind's eye.
      - tormeh 12y ago
        I thought you said the US is as bad as Russia, which is pretty wrong.
        dasil003 12y ago
        No, I only meant they both have selfish cultures, obviously they manifest completely differently. The US continues to be one of the best places to live in the world even in its entitled malaise, largely as a result of momentum of post-war prosperity that was mostly dropped in our lap due to military and political strife around the rest of the planet while we sat happily on a wealth of natural resources ready to be exploited.
sebastialonso 12y ago
They didn't played that game decades ago, when the world wasn't as globalized as it is today. They didn't have a good ride that time, and it's a fact that they won't have a good ride now.
- mahouse 12y ago
  What's a good ride? I will tell you what a good ride is for me: the distribution of wealth. And that isn't working on the US now, so what can I say? It's hard to choose. But it's a purely political question, a matter of taste... there isn't a definite answer.

by mahouse 12y ago

Lapsa 12y ago

I'm in between and I think that both - US and RF are completely nuts :D

dasil003 12y ago
As an American, I agree. I think both cultures have little interest in having an honest debate about how to foster a good society across the board. Politicians pay it lip service, but behind the façade everyone is just trying to get theirs in the US just as it is in RF.
- tormeh 12y ago
  NO! Common misunderstanding among Americans who haven't traveled much. You don't even need to go to Russia. Just go to Mexico and it will give you a small taste of how bad things can get. The only way Russia could be worse is if it had feudal slavery. Ok, there are corrupt people everywhere, but there are often cultural limits on what people will let others and themselves get away with. Those limits are pretty high in the US, but they basically don't exist in Russia. As to not being interested in figuring out how to create a good society, you're correct. They're both way too exceptional for that.
  - dasil003 12y ago
    LOL, you know what they say about assuming right? Turns out I'm half-Brazilian and I currently live in the UK. I spent part of my childhood in the 80s in Brazil so I know a thing or two about corruption. Anyway, not sure what you were responding "NO" to as you explicitly agreed with the only assertion that I actually made rather than the stereotype that jubilantly flowered forth in your mind's eye.
    - tormeh 12y ago
      I thought you said the US is as bad as Russia, which is pretty wrong.
      - dasil003 12y ago
        No, I only meant they both have selfish cultures, obviously they manifest completely differently. The US continues to be one of the best places to live in the world even in its entitled malaise, largely as a result of momentum of post-war prosperity that was mostly dropped in our lap due to military and political strife around the rest of the planet while we sat happily on a wealth of natural resources ready to be exploited.

sebastialonso 12y ago

They didn't played that game decades ago, when the world wasn't as globalized as it is today. They didn't have a good ride that time, and it's a fact that they won't have a good ride now.

mahouse 12y ago
What's a good ride? I will tell you what a good ride is for me: the distribution of wealth. And that isn't working on the US now, so what can I say? It's hard to choose. But it's a purely political question, a matter of taste... there isn't a definite answer.