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"Skype-killers" without end-to-end encryption are useless.

• tmikaeld 12y ago
  My first thought as well, why change when nothing have changed.
• beaner 12y ago
  This is really all I want as well. There's tons of pretty messaging apps. Style isn't enough to sway me anymore - I want privacy. How hard is it to make a messaging app that makes encryption its #1 priority?
  • Omniusaspirer 12y ago
    I've been following Tox with some interest. It's fairly new but fully open source, decentralized, end-to-end encryption, no account needed (people added via their unique bytestring). https://tox.im/ https://tox.im/
    • Xylemon 12y ago
      Tox has interested me more since it's inception, mainly because it's open source and completely relies on peer to peer connections. I've seen some other open source alternatives that aren't as light weight and still centralized to some degree. Wire, if it really wants to be a "Skype killer" in my opinion, should go open source and be more reassuring about how they are protecting our privacy.
    • corobo 12y ago
      I wish this one would market itself as a really good chat application first and privacy second. Privacy etc is of course important but it all feels far too tinfoil hat for myself and too technical I'd imagine for anyone else I know to bother with
  • column 12y ago
    Pretty hard, but it's coming. See http://labs.bittorrent.com/bleep http://labs.bittorrent.com/bleep
    • medecau 12y ago
      It's closed source.
      • column 12y ago
        He didn't ask for an open source application, but for one that focuses on encryption from the get-go.
• notthetup 12y ago
  If they're based on WebRTC then I believe end-to-end encryption is baked into the standard. Whether they use the standard completely is another question.
  • bad_user 12y ago
    Where does it say that they are based on WebRTC?
    • geoah 12y ago
      Source code. :P
  • mattlutze 12y ago
    Articles (http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/3/7325083/wire-chat-service-skype-founder http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/3/7325083/wire-chat-service-...) suggest "end to end encryption for voice calls" and encryption to and from their servers for text, but I haven't seen anything about it being WebRTC (unless I missed that on the product's web site). I'm not sure that them having my messages unencrypted on their servers makes that feature any more desirable than Skype, WhatsApp and the like. Encrypted voice call is good, but in the case they don't say how they do that encryption, it'll remain less-than-trustworthy.
    • jwilkins 12y ago
      yeah, not so much: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/wire-built-by-ex-skype-employees-retracts-promise-not-to-read-your-messages http://motherboard.vice.com/read/wire-built-by-ex-skype-empl...