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That is all very well, but could you provide references for the cost (including any programs it replaced) and the downward progression in literacy and maths in

That is all very well, but could you provide references for the cost (including any programs it replaced) and the downward progression in literacy and maths in the USA since 1979? edit - Just looked at budgets. You are picking the peak. Which makes me somewhat doubtful of the rest of your analysis. In 2009 it was $32 billion. In 2010 it was $56 billion. It peaked at $71 billion in 2011 and has been almost flat since then. edit2 - heh, actually the peak was in 2009. Do not trust wikipedia. http://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chtt=Department+of+Education+Appropriation&chts=000000,12&chs=600x300&chds=20,160&chf=bg,s,ffffff|c,s,ffffff&chxt=x,y,x,y&chxr=1,20,160&chxl=0:|2000|2001|2002|2003|2004|2005|2006|2007|2008|2009|2010|2011|2012|2013|2014|1:|20|40|60|80|100|120|140|160|2:||||||||Fiscal+Year|3:||||$+billions|||&cht=bvs&chd=t:29.4,40.1,49.5,53.1,55.7,57.2,58.4,57.8,57.2,155.4,64.1,68.3,68.1,65.7,67.3&chco=ff9900&chbh=25&chm=t29.4,000000,0,0,11|t40.1,000000,0,1,11|t49.5,000000,0,2,11|t53.1,000000,0,3,11|t55.7,000000,0,4,11|t57.2,000000,0,5,11|t58.4,000000,0,6,11|t57.8,000000,0,7,11|t57.2,000000,0,8,11|t155.4,000000,0,9,11|t64.1,000000,0,10,11|t68.3,000000,0,11,11|t68.1,000000,0,12,11|t65.7,000000,0,13,11|t67.3,000000,0,14,11 http://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chtt=Department+of+Educati... http://febp.newamerica.net/background-analysis/education-federal-budget http://febp.newamerica.net/background-analysis/education-fed... Still, the general point holds, it has not been remotely steady at $70 billion.

blisterpeanuts 12y ago
http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budget/history/edhistory.pdf http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budget/history/edhistory.p... Appropriations since 1980 add up to about $1.334 trillion. This is not inflation adjusted, however, so the equivalent amount in 2014 dollars would be much higher. I wish they had given NASA that money instead and maybe we'd have a colony on the moon by now.
- lotsofmangos 12y ago
  You have to factor in the cost of the programs it replaced, given it was largely created by transferring education programs from other government departments. Also, you have given no references whatsoever for your claimed steady decline in literacy and maths since 1979.

blisterpeanuts 12y ago

http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budget/history/edhistory.pdf http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budget/history/edhistory.p... Appropriations since 1980 add up to about $1.334 trillion. This is not inflation adjusted, however, so the equivalent amount in 2014 dollars would be much higher. I wish they had given NASA that money instead and maybe we'd have a colony on the moon by now.

lotsofmangos 12y ago
You have to factor in the cost of the programs it replaced, given it was largely created by transferring education programs from other government departments. Also, you have given no references whatsoever for your claimed steady decline in literacy and maths since 1979.