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Whom should I be afraid of? A private company who or my government?

by darkhorn 12y ago

towelguy 12y ago
> Whom should I be afraid of? My government possibly controlling a private company or my government? FTFY
- darkhorn 12y ago
  Not in my case. Neither Turkey nor Bulgaria has control over Telegram. Howaver these countries have good relatoins with Microsoft, you know we buy Windows you give user information stuff. That may happened to me in the past or not I don't want to mentoin it here but I have 0 tolerance to companies somehow related with Microsft like Facebook, WhatsApp, Skype etc.
vertex-four 12y ago
Both, really - there's not really anything the Government can do that a large enough company or collection of companies can't - but the point is that you have no proof that this company is not either wilfully collaborating with or being forced to collaborate with the Government.
- darkhorn 12y ago
  Microsoft provides users' information to Turkey. Telegram haven't done something similar, yet.
  - vertex-four 12y ago
    > Telegram haven't done something similar. As far as you know. Why would they publicise it if they did? How can you prove they've not been forced to?
    - darkhorn 12y ago
      So Turkey or Bulgaria will ask for data, Twlegram will give it, and these governments will say to shut up or we will fly to arrest you in whatever country you live and kick you into jail and we will get your money out of the banks, doesn't matter in what country it is. Seems possible like if you give a million dollar. Not impossible, as far as you give such money. But the countries I have mentioned are not that rich. Also if you look at the forums about justice and advocates etc you can see that Microsoft provides user data but not Google or Facebook (except very big and obvious crimes). But Microsoft, oh it is like your best enemy. So my point is that you will hear it (except spying) if it is a legal request.
Karunamon 12y ago
Yes.

4 ms·

Whom should I be afraid of? A private company who or my government?

by darkhorn 12y ago

Whom should I be afraid of? A private company who or my government?

towelguy 12y ago
> Whom should I be afraid of? My government possibly controlling a private company or my government? FTFY
- darkhorn 12y ago
  Not in my case. Neither Turkey nor Bulgaria has control over Telegram. Howaver these countries have good relatoins with Microsoft, you know we buy Windows you give user information stuff. That may happened to me in the past or not I don't want to mentoin it here but I have 0 tolerance to companies somehow related with Microsft like Facebook, WhatsApp, Skype etc.
vertex-four 12y ago
Both, really - there's not really anything the Government can do that a large enough company or collection of companies can't - but the point is that you have no proof that this company is not either wilfully collaborating with or being forced to collaborate with the Government.
- darkhorn 12y ago
  Microsoft provides users' information to Turkey. Telegram haven't done something similar, yet.
  - vertex-four 12y ago
    > Telegram haven't done something similar. As far as you know. Why would they publicise it if they did? How can you prove they've not been forced to?
    - darkhorn 12y ago
      So Turkey or Bulgaria will ask for data, Twlegram will give it, and these governments will say to shut up or we will fly to arrest you in whatever country you live and kick you into jail and we will get your money out of the banks, doesn't matter in what country it is. Seems possible like if you give a million dollar. Not impossible, as far as you give such money. But the countries I have mentioned are not that rich. Also if you look at the forums about justice and advocates etc you can see that Microsoft provides user data but not Google or Facebook (except very big and obvious crimes). But Microsoft, oh it is like your best enemy. So my point is that you will hear it (except spying) if it is a legal request.
Karunamon 12y ago
Yes.