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I know it's far away because I develop software for a living. In software development, you have to understand the problem space in order to create something th

by xienze 12y ago

I know it's far away because I develop software for a living. In software development, you have to understand the problem space in order to create something that works (duh). Relatively speaking, we know absolutely nothing about how human intelligence works from an algorithmic point of view, therefore we can't model it in software. Sure, we can develop "AI" that is good at a very narrow range of tasks (e.g., playing chess), but that's a million miles away from developing a human brain modeled in software.

butwhy 12y ago
You could be right, you could be wrong. Do you work in AI? I suppose it's hard to tell how far the industry actually is, towards emulating portions of brain functionality.
Voloskaya 12y ago
70% of hacker news readers develop software for a living, that doesn't make us in any way competent to judge that. I would even argue that may make us less competent, because we use our day to day development routine as a reference for that, while in fact it's very highly probable that the first true AI will have nothing to do with the technologies and paradigm you use everyday. I highly doubt it will coded in Java and AngularJS. Moreover who told you a dangerous AI needed to be based on human brain? Even if that is true, and even if we are not able to do it today, it's quite realistic to assume that we will be able to at one point, not too far in time, in some decades. So why not start reflecting today on the threat AI could cause? Rather than waiting for it to be embedded everywhere in our everyday life, and then asking if maybe we should start regulating it. For a parallel look at the global warming issue, and how it's extremely difficult to make industries reduce their emissions now that they are responsible for a significant part of the GDP and are responsible for so much jobs. Same thing for ICE cars, we know they pollute, but we just can't stop using them like that.
- xienze 12y ago
  > Moreover who told you a dangerous AI needed to be based on human brain? All these doomsday AI scenarios are predicated on a machine becoming "self aware", having independent thought, the ability to handle self-directed learning, etc. Sounds a lot like human intelligence.
  - Voloskaya 12y ago
    Yes, it's a possibility, and I based the rest of my argumentation on a human brain model scenario.

by xienze 12y ago

butwhy 12y ago

You could be right, you could be wrong. Do you work in AI? I suppose it's hard to tell how far the industry actually is, towards emulating portions of brain functionality.

Voloskaya 12y ago

70% of hacker news readers develop software for a living, that doesn't make us in any way competent to judge that. I would even argue that may make us less competent, because we use our day to day development routine as a reference for that, while in fact it's very highly probable that the first true AI will have nothing to do with the technologies and paradigm you use everyday. I highly doubt it will coded in Java and AngularJS. Moreover who told you a dangerous AI needed to be based on human brain? Even if that is true, and even if we are not able to do it today, it's quite realistic to assume that we will be able to at one point, not too far in time, in some decades. So why not start reflecting today on the threat AI could cause? Rather than waiting for it to be embedded everywhere in our everyday life, and then asking if maybe we should start regulating it. For a parallel look at the global warming issue, and how it's extremely difficult to make industries reduce their emissions now that they are responsible for a significant part of the GDP and are responsible for so much jobs. Same thing for ICE cars, we know they pollute, but we just can't stop using them like that.

xienze 12y ago
> Moreover who told you a dangerous AI needed to be based on human brain? All these doomsday AI scenarios are predicated on a machine becoming "self aware", having independent thought, the ability to handle self-directed learning, etc. Sounds a lot like human intelligence.
- Voloskaya 12y ago
  Yes, it's a possibility, and I based the rest of my argumentation on a human brain model scenario.