You're right - I was referencing this bug here (https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/8637 https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/8637), but seems it was no

You're right - I was referencing this bug here (https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/8637 https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/8637), but seems it was not merged into mainline. I agree that Chef and Ansible are different than container orchestration today - especially, when you look at low level stuff like networking, mounts, etc... But I guess what I was saying is that it is not hard to add these features to them. They already have a specification format that works well and check for idempotency at its core. Unless you mean something like etcd is fundamental to container orchestration, which I don't believe it is (we run a couple of containers in production using Fig)