> Aubrey de Grey? You mean the crazy dude that tells people we're going to live forever without any evidence to support his claims? That's not what he claims.

> Aubrey de Grey? You mean the crazy dude that tells people we're going to live forever without any evidence to support his claims? That's not what he claims. You have apparently only heard the soundbites. All the details of his proposals are in his book (check Amazon). After reading it, I happen to think that his engineering approach is brilliant compared to the traditional gerontological approach. Periodically repairing the damage (of which there are only 7 types) before it accumulates enough to create pathologies is much smarter than trying to learn how to cure all pathologies, or trying to fiddle with metabolism. For a quick overview, you can google his TED talk (but it's a bit old and doesn't contain much biology). >And Hofstadter, the guy who wrote that really dumb book? (Here I admit that I only read the introduction Once again, you seem to be commenting on something that you don't know much about. I'll admit I like Hofstadter more for who he is and how he writes, not for a specific idea or achievement, but GEB definitely isn't "dumb".