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Does he explain the glaring paradox of the time travel storyline? Someone said it is permissible as a 'closed timelike curve' but smells like BS to me.

by Tycho 12y ago

chton 12y ago
I'll just link you to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_princ... It's by far my favorite way to explain time travel system like the one we see in Interstellar, and it's rooted in real science rather than Paradox Philosophy.
ceejayoz 12y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve > in a CTC, causality breaks down, because an event can be "simultaneous" with its cause—in some sense an event may be able to cause itself.
mindcrime 12y ago
The thing is, you don't really have to explain that, exactly because we don't know what the "rules" of time-travel are, IF it were even possible. We talk about "grandfather paradoxes" and "ontological paradox" in sci-fi, and speculate about what would happen in "real life" if some of these things happened, but the paradox might be completely irrelevant for all we know. Anyway, for my money, this issue falls well into the "willful suspension of disbelief" category - and didn't affect my appreciation of the movie at all. I mean, yeah, it was billed as a "scientifically accurate' movie, but it's still science fiction at the end of the day, with the emphasis on "fiction".
- Tycho 12y ago
  I think you do if it comes across as a fundamental breach of logic.
hansjorg 12y ago
One resolution I've seen mentioned is that if Brand succeeded with Plan B then maybe "they" are the ancestors of the Edmunds-planet. That would resolve the paradox at least.
eyevinx 12y ago
There is no paradox: http://www.reddit.com/r/interstellar/comments/2mmh71/spoilers_no_alternate_realities_no_paradox/ http://www.reddit.com/r/interstellar/comments/2mmh71/spoiler...
- Tycho 12y ago
  maybe I missed something but I don't see how that resolved the paradox just because you introduce more dimensions, doesn't mean you resolve a paradox within the existing dimensions

Does he explain the glaring paradox of the time travel storyline? Someone said it is permissible as a 'closed timelike curve' but smells like BS to me.

by Tycho 12y ago

Does he explain the glaring paradox of the time travel storyline? Someone said it is permissible as a 'closed timelike curve' but smells like BS to me.

chton 12y ago

I'll just link you to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_princ... It's by far my favorite way to explain time travel system like the one we see in Interstellar, and it's rooted in real science rather than Paradox Philosophy.

ceejayoz 12y ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve > in a CTC, causality breaks down, because an event can be "simultaneous" with its cause—in some sense an event may be able to cause itself.

mindcrime 12y ago

The thing is, you don't really have to explain that, exactly because we don't know what the "rules" of time-travel are, IF it were even possible. We talk about "grandfather paradoxes" and "ontological paradox" in sci-fi, and speculate about what would happen in "real life" if some of these things happened, but the paradox might be completely irrelevant for all we know. Anyway, for my money, this issue falls well into the "willful suspension of disbelief" category - and didn't affect my appreciation of the movie at all. I mean, yeah, it was billed as a "scientifically accurate' movie, but it's still science fiction at the end of the day, with the emphasis on "fiction".

Tycho 12y ago
I think you do if it comes across as a fundamental breach of logic.

hansjorg 12y ago

One resolution I've seen mentioned is that if Brand succeeded with Plan B then maybe "they" are the ancestors of the Edmunds-planet. That would resolve the paradox at least.

eyevinx 12y ago

There is no paradox: http://www.reddit.com/r/interstellar/comments/2mmh71/spoilers_no_alternate_realities_no_paradox/ http://www.reddit.com/r/interstellar/comments/2mmh71/spoiler...

Tycho 12y ago
maybe I missed something but I don't see how that resolved the paradox just because you introduce more dimensions, doesn't mean you resolve a paradox within the existing dimensions