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"Some people say vinyl sounds "warmer" or better and if you're a professional and you have the right equipment that might be true (…)" Most likely it is the ot

"Some people say vinyl sounds "warmer" or better and if you're a professional and you have the right equipment that might be true (…)" Most likely it is the other way round. A nearby record store made a test a while ago. They invited an audience and compared vinyl with digital on three different pairs of equipment. In direct blind comparison, the audience rated digital better only on the most sophisticated systems (> 10.000 dollar DAC/record player). Their result is: if you spend less than 4000 for your player and care for best sound, go with vinyl. I guess that applies to most of us ;o)

eterm 12y ago
You don't need a 10k DAC, I suspect something a hundredth of that would still have been well rated. DACs aren't complex equipment. Stick the money on an amp and speaker set that sounds good (that still doesn't require 10k btw).
- mironathetin 12y ago
  Well, honestly said, the 10k was reported from my memory. The SACD player in the test was indeed a 10k player. You are right that good dacs are available for less (a few hundreds). But my points were the results of the test. I tried to keep out my personal opinion. Opinions about vinyl or digital usually end in flamewars.
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cokernel 12y ago
I am interested in learning more about this test. Which record store performed this test? When? I guess record stores don't normally publish their experiments, but it would be nice if they did.
- mironathetin 12y ago
  Here is the link to phono phono in Berlin: http://www.phonophono.de/blog/2013/07/technikabend-analog-gegen-digital-2/ http://www.phonophono.de/blog/2013/07/technikabend-analog-ge... google translator is your (pidgin-english-)friend, if you shouldn't be fluent in german ;o)
ryandetzel 12y ago
Yeah, was it a cd or mp3? 128kbps or 192? There are so many "studies" that say one or the other but my assumption is most people would know or even care about the difference. The best music is the music you have access to and can enjoy and for most people that's the music that fits in you pocket or can be streamed anywhere at anytime. If you want to say you like vinyl because you like the feel, the blowing the dust off, the setting the needle, the flipping to side B then I'm fine with that but to say it's a better sound (that is noticeable to make it worth the premium and hassle) that's just silly. Hipsters will be hipsters though.

eterm 12y ago

You don't need a 10k DAC, I suspect something a hundredth of that would still have been well rated. DACs aren't complex equipment. Stick the money on an amp and speaker set that sounds good (that still doesn't require 10k btw).

mironathetin 12y ago
Well, honestly said, the 10k was reported from my memory. The SACD player in the test was indeed a 10k player. You are right that good dacs are available for less (a few hundreds). But my points were the results of the test. I tried to keep out my personal opinion. Opinions about vinyl or digital usually end in flamewars.
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cokernel 12y ago

I am interested in learning more about this test. Which record store performed this test? When? I guess record stores don't normally publish their experiments, but it would be nice if they did.

mironathetin 12y ago
Here is the link to phono phono in Berlin: http://www.phonophono.de/blog/2013/07/technikabend-analog-gegen-digital-2/ http://www.phonophono.de/blog/2013/07/technikabend-analog-ge... google translator is your (pidgin-english-)friend, if you shouldn't be fluent in german ;o)

ryandetzel 12y ago

Yeah, was it a cd or mp3? 128kbps or 192? There are so many "studies" that say one or the other but my assumption is most people would know or even care about the difference. The best music is the music you have access to and can enjoy and for most people that's the music that fits in you pocket or can be streamed anywhere at anytime. If you want to say you like vinyl because you like the feel, the blowing the dust off, the setting the needle, the flipping to side B then I'm fine with that but to say it's a better sound (that is noticeable to make it worth the premium and hassle) that's just silly. Hipsters will be hipsters though.