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Why am I not surprised? The people who run the european commissions are career politicians. Involved in politics from day 1 and rarely have had real jobs. Let a

Why am I not surprised? The people who run the european commissions are career politicians. Involved in politics from day 1 and rarely have had real jobs. Let alone ran a business of their own. It figures...

amirmc 12y ago
Your comment doesn't add very much to the discussion. I could argue that most software engineers have never had a 'real' job either. Tax across the EU is an important concern, given how large companies can position themselves to take full advantage of differences. People should be thinking about this. Unfortunately, the law is a rather blunt instrument and there's a valid argument that current changes hurt small companies disproportionately more.
- vixen99 12y ago
  I disagree; there is a very fundamental problem around when unelected (unsackable) comfortably situated people with golden pensions who do not create wealth, sit in rooms devising intricate schemes for taxing wealth creators and moreover are completely isolated from the effects of their actions. And the problem is exacerbated by the absence of a signed-off auditors' account for the EU over something like fifteen years. Business leaders in this situation would be in prison by now. It is simply a scandal. I'll leave software engineers to say whether or not they've ever had a 'real' job.
  - amirmc 12y ago
    I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with. I never made any claims that supported (or opposed) the current EU set up. I merely pointed out that the comment I replied to added nothing constructive to the conversation and that Tax is an important issue. I'm not even sure what argument you're trying to make as it simply comes across as a rant. Wealth creators should decide tax policy? Career politicians are career politicians? Do you actually know how such policies are put together and the processes/consultation they go through? I have no idea so I'm not going to form a strong opinion either way.
Radim 12y ago
The top EU folk get a massive monthly budget for assistants and consultants = expert help (for EU MPs, this "extra staff budget" is to the tune of 30k USD per month [1], though often abused to fund family members/friends, just as you'd expect). So indeed you should be surprised (and enraged) if you think they're not doing a good enough job. The fact they're not experts has been factored in and provided for by the system. [1] http://en.euabc.com/word/814 http://en.euabc.com/word/814

amirmc 12y ago

Your comment doesn't add very much to the discussion. I could argue that most software engineers have never had a 'real' job either. Tax across the EU is an important concern, given how large companies can position themselves to take full advantage of differences. People should be thinking about this. Unfortunately, the law is a rather blunt instrument and there's a valid argument that current changes hurt small companies disproportionately more.

vixen99 12y ago
I disagree; there is a very fundamental problem around when unelected (unsackable) comfortably situated people with golden pensions who do not create wealth, sit in rooms devising intricate schemes for taxing wealth creators and moreover are completely isolated from the effects of their actions. And the problem is exacerbated by the absence of a signed-off auditors' account for the EU over something like fifteen years. Business leaders in this situation would be in prison by now. It is simply a scandal. I'll leave software engineers to say whether or not they've ever had a 'real' job.
- amirmc 12y ago
  I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with. I never made any claims that supported (or opposed) the current EU set up. I merely pointed out that the comment I replied to added nothing constructive to the conversation and that Tax is an important issue. I'm not even sure what argument you're trying to make as it simply comes across as a rant. Wealth creators should decide tax policy? Career politicians are career politicians? Do you actually know how such policies are put together and the processes/consultation they go through? I have no idea so I'm not going to form a strong opinion either way.

Radim 12y ago

The top EU folk get a massive monthly budget for assistants and consultants = expert help (for EU MPs, this "extra staff budget" is to the tune of 30k USD per month [1], though often abused to fund family members/friends, just as you'd expect). So indeed you should be surprised (and enraged) if you think they're not doing a good enough job. The fact they're not experts has been factored in and provided for by the system. [1] http://en.euabc.com/word/814 http://en.euabc.com/word/814